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That was quite a long-winded way of saying that you don't really have any argument against such agencies. Hiding this behind the 'no politics discussion' exper
by commenting 10y ago
That was quite a long-winded way of saying that you don't really have any argument against such agencies.
Hiding this behind the 'no politics discussion' experiment was a bit odd though.
- logicallee 10y ago1984; the film "Brazil" (1985); "The Lives of Others" (about the Stasi); Snowden's film and revelations; the history of dictatorships and surveillance, etc; I could also make many specific arguments. But my point wasn't any of this: just that most of HN strongly feels against surveillance and the capabilities mentioned. I don't want to take a side I just want the contradiction to be put front and center in these cases. It will lead to everyone on HN having a better position, when they do eventually take one. I still think we don't need to have that argument here (or in most cases where it comes up).
- niij 10y agoI'm not against these agencies if the are actively targeting criminals with a clearly defined scope. Drag net surveillance of innocent people is a different matter.