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White hood wearing motherfuckers chomping at the bit to call black people "chimps" is not merely some alternative "clique", as you disingenuously suggest. The p

White hood wearing motherfuckers chomping at the bit to call black people "chimps" is not merely some alternative "clique", as you disingenuously suggest. The problem with tolerance of the intolerant is that you end up with an authoritarian monoculture where speech is much less free than it could have been.

makomk 10y ago
You think that the only reason someone would disagree with you is because they're a literal KKK supporter, but this is somehow fighting against an authoritarian monoculture? Right. Had nothing to do with said clique's awful treatment of LGBT people, dubiously moral tactics, tendency to see anyone who disagrees as literal neo-Nazis, and utter refusal to brook any kind of internal dissent over anything at all, of course. All those times they went after gay and trans men for daring to claim to be oppressed were sure a-OK with me. The fact they could only claim to meet their own basic moral standards by banning anyone who held them to the same standard as the rest of Reddit over anything, as a matter of policy, has zero to do with my assertion that it's not that simple or easy. (Hell, the ex-Reddit CEO's since confirmed they had a history of IRL harassment campaigns against the families of Reddit admins who didn't go along with them.)
- intortus 10y ago
  > You think that the only reason someone would disagree with you is because they're a literal KKK supporter, but this is somehow fighting against an authoritarian monoculture? This is a position that you've pulled straight out of your own ass. Is there any reason to believe that the rest of your loggorhea is any more truthful?
  - stefantalpalaru 10y ago
    > This is a position that you've pulled straight out of your own ass. Is there any reason to believe that the rest of your loggorhea is any more truthful? You should be hellbanned for violating this gratuitous HN guideline: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity."
  - sctb 10y ago
    No matter what sort of threads we find ourselves in, the guidelines ask us not to comment uncivilly like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - intortus 10y ago
      In what way was I uncivil? They composed a strawman argument and attributed it to me, hence they pulled it out of their ass.
      - dang 10y ago
        > straight out of your own ass > your loggorhea That is extremely uncivil (and a bannable offense here). If that isn't obvious to you, simply refraining from calling names and slinging personal pejoratives will get you a long way. The point is to post civilly and substantively, or not at all.
        intortus 10y ago
        Just for the record, neither of those statements invoke namecalling and they clearly refer to the person's argument, not the person.
        dang 10y ago
        I don't agree. What could be more personal than one's own ass? Whether we agree definitionally or not, the standard here is well established, and when accounts can't or won't abide by it, we ban them.

makomk 10y ago

You think that the only reason someone would disagree with you is because they're a literal KKK supporter, but this is somehow fighting against an authoritarian monoculture? Right. Had nothing to do with said clique's awful treatment of LGBT people, dubiously moral tactics, tendency to see anyone who disagrees as literal neo-Nazis, and utter refusal to brook any kind of internal dissent over anything at all, of course. All those times they went after gay and trans men for daring to claim to be oppressed were sure a-OK with me. The fact they could only claim to meet their own basic moral standards by banning anyone who held them to the same standard as the rest of Reddit over anything, as a matter of policy, has zero to do with my assertion that it's not that simple or easy. (Hell, the ex-Reddit CEO's since confirmed they had a history of IRL harassment campaigns against the families of Reddit admins who didn't go along with them.)

intortus 10y ago
> You think that the only reason someone would disagree with you is because they're a literal KKK supporter, but this is somehow fighting against an authoritarian monoculture? This is a position that you've pulled straight out of your own ass. Is there any reason to believe that the rest of your loggorhea is any more truthful?
- stefantalpalaru 10y ago
  > This is a position that you've pulled straight out of your own ass. Is there any reason to believe that the rest of your loggorhea is any more truthful? You should be hellbanned for violating this gratuitous HN guideline: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity."
- sctb 10y ago
  No matter what sort of threads we find ourselves in, the guidelines ask us not to comment uncivilly like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - intortus 10y ago
    In what way was I uncivil? They composed a strawman argument and attributed it to me, hence they pulled it out of their ass.
    - dang 10y ago
      > straight out of your own ass > your loggorhea That is extremely uncivil (and a bannable offense here). If that isn't obvious to you, simply refraining from calling names and slinging personal pejoratives will get you a long way. The point is to post civilly and substantively, or not at all.
      - intortus 10y ago
        Just for the record, neither of those statements invoke namecalling and they clearly refer to the person's argument, not the person.
        dang 10y ago
        I don't agree. What could be more personal than one's own ass? Whether we agree definitionally or not, the standard here is well established, and when accounts can't or won't abide by it, we ban them.