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I've been using imzy since very early on, and I have to say, I really like the idea of it. The basic premise is basically: "do whatever but play nice". And if y

by 60654 10y ago

I've been using imzy since very early on, and I have to say, I really like the idea of it. The basic premise is basically: "do whatever but play nice". And if you don't play nice you get modded and eventually kicked out. I can get behind that TBH. Also, to be sure, they do have some growing pains to go through. There are too many empty communities at this point (they should've started with fewer high-traffic ones). And the website perf isn't as fast as Reddit or HN. But I'm sure that will get worked out over time...

this-dang-guy 10y ago
The concept is nice but I have a real issue with this part: Why do they need pixel tags for tracking, and why don't they support DNT? No 'new' website should put up with this. I'll cut some slack to the 2010 and before era sites, since they've got a lot of legacy to work with. Pixel Tags. In addition, we use "Pixel Tags" (also referred to as clear Gifs, Web beacons, or Web bugs). Pixel Tags are tiny graphic images with a unique identifier, similar in function to Cookies, that are used to track online movements of Web users. In contrast to Cookies, which are stored on a user’s computer hard drive, Pixel Tags are embedded invisibly in Web pages. Pixel Tags also allow us to send e-mail messages in a format users can read, and they tell us whether e-mails have been opened to ensure that we are sending only messages that are of interest to our users. We may use this information to reduce or eliminate messages sent to a user. We do not tie the information gathered by Pixel Tags to our users’ Personal Data. How We Respond to Do Not Track Signals. We do not currently respond to "do not track" signals or other mechanisms that might enable Users to opt out of tracking on our site.
- NotAMoose 10y ago
  Our emails use Pixel Tags, both our sendgrid emails and our intercom ones. That part of our Privacy Policy is boilerplate from the lawyers, I included that section because of the emails. Sorry if the phrasing is sorta awkward. Regarding DNT- I should mention that we don't actually have advertising on the site. I feel like this might be a bit of flamebait on my part, but I think a lot of the time, DNT is just privacy theatre. Some sites (like Medium) have done a great job with DNT implementation, but I think the initiative has largely not worked out nearly as well as people would like. (My opinions about DNT are my own, I'm not really speaking on behalf of Imzy regarding that.)
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arama471 10y ago
> if you don't play nice you get modded did you mean muted or does modded not mean "promoted to moderator" on izmy?
webwanderings 10y ago
I didn't see this as their basic premise. Their basic premise seems to hinge on the idea of "tipping people's niceness". If I am nice and helpful, then I should expect to earn a penny. And I should do the same to others. That's actually very similar to the plot of Black Mirror's Nosedive episode. I tried to hang on there but I didn't find much motivation to "earn anything". I am not even sure why I should reward anyone there.
- NotAMoose 10y ago
  >Their basic premise seems to hinge on the idea of "tipping people's niceness". This isn't actually true. Some news article decided that was our basic premise because it made a good clickbait headline. Our tipping system is the beginning of a larger business model that we hope to implement in the future. https://medium.com/imzyhq/why-imzy-doesnt-have-ads-and-what-we-re-doing-instead-ff3f1cb8c3c4#.998jlpam4 https://medium.com/imzyhq/why-imzy-doesnt-have-ads-and-what-... We don't want to have advertisements on the site, and the tipping system is part of our strategy to avoid that.
  - webwanderings 10y ago
    Isn't the business model the real premise? Without which, you won't be able to self-sustain, which then renders any other supposed premise, useless.
    - rtpg 10y ago
      I think for more community-run sites, the business model is not the real premise. No one would say that the real premise of Wikipedia is collecting donations.
      - webwanderings 10y ago
        But Wikipedia proves that the real premise is not sustainable if they don't collect donations. So whether one defines the hierarchy of premises or not, the fact of the matter is that the intention matters. The intention of Imzy seems to be that they want to stand against Reddit, and their stand out qualification is for people to be nice via reward-system. Now here I am not going to go into the argument of whether reward systems should be used for adults...but it is one of their premise for sure.
zhemao 10y ago
The vast majority of communities are user-created, so it's kind of expected that there would be a long tail of community size, especially since there aren't any "default" communities like on Reddit. I think the most popular communities are still fairly active. I'm confident that there'll be more activity now that more people are joining.
karmakaze 10y ago
As a long time Imzy user, do you know of a way to hide the images so that we're left with text more similarly Reddit or HN? I registered, because I needed to before being able to browse stories and found that it isn't anything like Reddit UX-wise not even considering the niceness element.

by 60654 10y ago

this-dang-guy 10y ago

The concept is nice but I have a real issue with this part: Why do they need pixel tags for tracking, and why don't they support DNT? No 'new' website should put up with this. I'll cut some slack to the 2010 and before era sites, since they've got a lot of legacy to work with. Pixel Tags. In addition, we use "Pixel Tags" (also referred to as clear Gifs, Web beacons, or Web bugs). Pixel Tags are tiny graphic images with a unique identifier, similar in function to Cookies, that are used to track online movements of Web users. In contrast to Cookies, which are stored on a user’s computer hard drive, Pixel Tags are embedded invisibly in Web pages. Pixel Tags also allow us to send e-mail messages in a format users can read, and they tell us whether e-mails have been opened to ensure that we are sending only messages that are of interest to our users. We may use this information to reduce or eliminate messages sent to a user. We do not tie the information gathered by Pixel Tags to our users’ Personal Data. How We Respond to Do Not Track Signals. We do not currently respond to "do not track" signals or other mechanisms that might enable Users to opt out of tracking on our site.

NotAMoose 10y ago
Our emails use Pixel Tags, both our sendgrid emails and our intercom ones. That part of our Privacy Policy is boilerplate from the lawyers, I included that section because of the emails. Sorry if the phrasing is sorta awkward. Regarding DNT- I should mention that we don't actually have advertising on the site. I feel like this might be a bit of flamebait on my part, but I think a lot of the time, DNT is just privacy theatre. Some sites (like Medium) have done a great job with DNT implementation, but I think the initiative has largely not worked out nearly as well as people would like. (My opinions about DNT are my own, I'm not really speaking on behalf of Imzy regarding that.)
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arama471 10y ago

> if you don't play nice you get modded did you mean muted or does modded not mean "promoted to moderator" on izmy?

webwanderings 10y ago

I didn't see this as their basic premise. Their basic premise seems to hinge on the idea of "tipping people's niceness". If I am nice and helpful, then I should expect to earn a penny. And I should do the same to others. That's actually very similar to the plot of Black Mirror's Nosedive episode. I tried to hang on there but I didn't find much motivation to "earn anything". I am not even sure why I should reward anyone there.

NotAMoose 10y ago
>Their basic premise seems to hinge on the idea of "tipping people's niceness". This isn't actually true. Some news article decided that was our basic premise because it made a good clickbait headline. Our tipping system is the beginning of a larger business model that we hope to implement in the future. https://medium.com/imzyhq/why-imzy-doesnt-have-ads-and-what-we-re-doing-instead-ff3f1cb8c3c4#.998jlpam4 https://medium.com/imzyhq/why-imzy-doesnt-have-ads-and-what-... We don't want to have advertisements on the site, and the tipping system is part of our strategy to avoid that.
- webwanderings 10y ago
  Isn't the business model the real premise? Without which, you won't be able to self-sustain, which then renders any other supposed premise, useless.
  - rtpg 10y ago
    I think for more community-run sites, the business model is not the real premise. No one would say that the real premise of Wikipedia is collecting donations.
    - webwanderings 10y ago
      But Wikipedia proves that the real premise is not sustainable if they don't collect donations. So whether one defines the hierarchy of premises or not, the fact of the matter is that the intention matters. The intention of Imzy seems to be that they want to stand against Reddit, and their stand out qualification is for people to be nice via reward-system. Now here I am not going to go into the argument of whether reward systems should be used for adults...but it is one of their premise for sure.

zhemao 10y ago

The vast majority of communities are user-created, so it's kind of expected that there would be a long tail of community size, especially since there aren't any "default" communities like on Reddit. I think the most popular communities are still fairly active. I'm confident that there'll be more activity now that more people are joining.

karmakaze 10y ago

As a long time Imzy user, do you know of a way to hide the images so that we're left with text more similarly Reddit or HN? I registered, because I needed to before being able to browse stories and found that it isn't anything like Reddit UX-wise not even considering the niceness element.