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An FBI Error Opens a Window into Government Demands for Private Info
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- avh02 10y agoyou would think the EFF would have a better scanner.
- beached_whale 10y agoWhat I don't get, is that for a country that seems to go to absolutes in other areas related to their constitution(e.g 2nd Amendment) where is the NRA equivalent on this one. Something like the National Free Speech Association that advocates for all forms of speech/expression and does not give in on anything that could take from that.
- idlewords 10y agoTraditionally this role has been played by the ACLU and by major news organizations.
- mtgx 10y agoAnd the vast majority of media entities now just do the bidding of the power (for one side or another), while ACLU supporters have gone into hibernation thinking the civil rights warrior, Barrack Obama, will protect them. That's unlike the NRA activists who are always highly vigilant about any encroachment on their gun rights. My hope is that although Trump will probably go to the extremes for surveillance and other rights violations, at least now more people will start to wake up and realize what kind of power they're allowing the government to have while they "don't care about that issue".
- komaromy 10y agoThe NRA's past is grounded in the interests of gun manufacturers. There's no equivalent industry with an existential interest in selling as much free speech as possible. Media orgs would only care if an appreciable portion of what they did was actual journalism.
- godelski 10y agoThere is a lack of care and fear. The "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" argument is common. The country is in a state of fear (see Trump's association with Muslims and ISIS). The combination is not great for free speech rights. Not to mention that the NRA has a lot of funding behind it.
- wyager 10y agoTwo factors: 1. There is more money involved (both professional and donated) in securing gun rights. 2. Gun rights have a stronger legal basis than privacy rights, which only exist at a federal level due to fairly recent Supreme Court rulings (last 100 years). Also, the NRA actually isn't a great gun rights org. They're more of a hunter's rights org. For example, they supported the current excise tax on guns that funds public land management (good for hunters). The Second Amendment Foundation is a much better organization for general firearm and self-defense rights. For other rights, we have great orgs like the EFF and ACLU. They're just working with a weaker legal basis.
- jedimastert 10y ago$10 says they've already gotten another one with a gag order
- dboreham 10y agoWas that typed on a typewriter???
- digler999 10y agoprobably opsec. kind of hard to develop a 0-day for a Selectric.
- dboreham 10y agoFair point.
- ficklepickle 10y agoNot impossible to bug, though. The Soviets did it in a US embassy in the 70's. http://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/ http://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/
- sctb 10y agoRelated discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13083180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13083180
- coldcode 10y agoI wonder if we will ever see a challenge by an NSL recipient with a gag clause who willingly discloses the NSL and thus generates standing to challenge it before the Supreme Court. Sure you might wind up in Gitmo, but without standing you cannot challenge and by following the NSL to the letter all of us lose.