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Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their servic

Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their services. And, if you are interested and you reply, then you should be grateful they reached out to you. I wouldn't mind an automated message if they had something I really really wanted. The problem is, 99.9999% of the time, automated message or non-automated messages aren't offering me anything I actually want. Case in point: if an automated message offered you a mansion in your neighborhood for sale, at 200$, would you really be upset that the message was automated?

MaulingMonkey 10y ago
> Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their services. I get emails from services that I'm actively trialing and evaluating to see how effectively it meets my needs. That's how they got my email address in the first place. I'm interested as hell in their services. I may have already bought their services. I have exactly zero interest in being interrupted and distracted by an ad copy regurgitating the same basic information I already looked at on their fucking website - or worse, sharing information they hid from their website. I cannot hit unsubscribe fast enough. If it wasn't worth writing, it certainly wasn't worth sending! > Case in point: if an automated message offered you a mansion in your neighborhood for sale, at 200$, would you really be upset that the message was automated? I would be upset that they've clearly sold my email address to a third party - or worse, have some kind of advertisement XSS stealing login emails - spamming me clear scams, email their security alias to notify them assuming the worst, make my spam filters more aggressive, and second guess if I really want to entrust their services with any of my data. Even if, somehow, against all odds, you could convince me it was a 'legitimate' offer, I'd assume the automation was bugged and the offer would fall through, or that the property had some kind of significant issue - huge tax burden, implied responsibility for superfund site cleanup, onerous historical upkeep and maintenance requirements, etc. that would make me uninterested in the actual deal. You could convince my closest confidants to take up the deal, a perfectly legitimate offer with no such hidden issues or strings, honor it, and on my death bed I'd be wondering when the other shoe was going to drop on them, upset that they'd been conned. If I want a $200 mansion, I'll go out and find it, if it exists. Don't call me - and most especially do not call me with a python script pretending to be a real boy engaging in a real one on one conversation when it isn't - I'll call you.
jodrellblank 10y ago
Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their services But that's not the sincere reason why I hate it. The sincere reason is because there's one of me and millions of companies all thinking they have a right to my attention so I can give their offer a genuine consideration. If I do see an offer and don't want it, I'm not hating on that specific offer that I didn't want. I am hating on the way the overall system tends towards me spending 24/7 reading advertising with a limitless queue of advertising backlog, and marketers defending it saying it's legitimate because they, individually, need to do marketing to survive.

MaulingMonkey 10y ago

> Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their services. I get emails from services that I'm actively trialing and evaluating to see how effectively it meets my needs. That's how they got my email address in the first place. I'm interested as hell in their services. I may have already bought their services. I have exactly zero interest in being interrupted and distracted by an ad copy regurgitating the same basic information I already looked at on their fucking website - or worse, sharing information they hid from their website. I cannot hit unsubscribe fast enough. If it wasn't worth writing, it certainly wasn't worth sending! > Case in point: if an automated message offered you a mansion in your neighborhood for sale, at 200$, would you really be upset that the message was automated? I would be upset that they've clearly sold my email address to a third party - or worse, have some kind of advertisement XSS stealing login emails - spamming me clear scams, email their security alias to notify them assuming the worst, make my spam filters more aggressive, and second guess if I really want to entrust their services with any of my data. Even if, somehow, against all odds, you could convince me it was a 'legitimate' offer, I'd assume the automation was bugged and the offer would fall through, or that the property had some kind of significant issue - huge tax burden, implied responsibility for superfund site cleanup, onerous historical upkeep and maintenance requirements, etc. that would make me uninterested in the actual deal. You could convince my closest confidants to take up the deal, a perfectly legitimate offer with no such hidden issues or strings, honor it, and on my death bed I'd be wondering when the other shoe was going to drop on them, upset that they'd been conned. If I want a $200 mansion, I'll go out and find it, if it exists. Don't call me - and most especially do not call me with a python script pretending to be a real boy engaging in a real one on one conversation when it isn't - I'll call you.

jodrellblank 10y ago

Don't hate on the email outreach because it's automated. If your going to hate it, do so for sincere reasons: namely that you're not interested in their services But that's not the sincere reason why I hate it. The sincere reason is because there's one of me and millions of companies all thinking they have a right to my attention so I can give their offer a genuine consideration. If I do see an offer and don't want it, I'm not hating on that specific offer that I didn't want. I am hating on the way the overall system tends towards me spending 24/7 reading advertising with a limitless queue of advertising backlog, and marketers defending it saying it's legitimate because they, individually, need to do marketing to survive.