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How can we impose an automated, scalable cost on this sort of marketing? Or, calling it what it is, spam.

anchpop 10y ago
Someone had the idea that the one sending the emails should be the one hosting them, not the one receiving them. The cost would be insignificant for most people but people who send a huge amount of emails would have to pay significantly more than they do today
- greenshackle2 10y ago
  Another idea is proof-of-work systems - the sender has to prove that they've performed some work. hashcash is an example, where to sender has to compute a hash with certain properties, and use is as a 'stamp'. You'd need a whitelist system along with it, else legitimate lists with large subscription bases would get hit hard.
- rogerbinns 10y ago
  While sounding good in theory, it changes a dynamic in practise. In particular reading a mail would now require connecting to the sender's systems in order to get the message. That would then give them read confirmation, confirmation that your address is valid, location information (geoip etc) and an opportunity to deliver different content when you request the message versus the stub that was sent announcing it. As is usual with these kind of proposals, you'll find it ticks many items on the checklist: https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt
Gustomaximus 10y ago
I've always thought it would be good to setup a LinkedIn type platform that let's the user 1) put a white list of contacts or 2) A price to contact. If your not on the whitelist any contact gets a response of "please pay X" for emails to get through. People can place their own value on their time and advertisers can decide if this is worth it. Also you could add a call feature where if a recruiter/sales person wants to schedule a call they can (via forwarded number to keep anonymity) at the agreed rate.
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Someone had the idea that the one sending the emails should be the one hosting them, not the one receiving them. The cost would be insignificant for most people but people who send a huge amount of emails would have to pay significantly more than they do today

greenshackle2 10y ago
Another idea is proof-of-work systems - the sender has to prove that they've performed some work. hashcash is an example, where to sender has to compute a hash with certain properties, and use is as a 'stamp'. You'd need a whitelist system along with it, else legitimate lists with large subscription bases would get hit hard.
rogerbinns 10y ago
While sounding good in theory, it changes a dynamic in practise. In particular reading a mail would now require connecting to the sender's systems in order to get the message. That would then give them read confirmation, confirmation that your address is valid, location information (geoip etc) and an opportunity to deliver different content when you request the message versus the stub that was sent announcing it. As is usual with these kind of proposals, you'll find it ticks many items on the checklist: https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt

Gustomaximus 10y ago

I've always thought it would be good to setup a LinkedIn type platform that let's the user 1) put a white list of contacts or 2) A price to contact. If your not on the whitelist any contact gets a response of "please pay X" for emails to get through. People can place their own value on their time and advertisers can decide if this is worth it. Also you could add a call feature where if a recruiter/sales person wants to schedule a call they can (via forwarded number to keep anonymity) at the agreed rate.

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