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The cloud is going back to mainframes (e.g. Chromebook). Kay and 2.8MB system (Squeak). TCP/IP in 160 SLOC (Ian Piumarta). You mix Open source and Free softwar

The cloud is going back to mainframes (e.g. Chromebook). Kay and 2.8MB system (Squeak). TCP/IP in 160 SLOC (Ian Piumarta). You mix Open source and Free software. Go have a real degree first (real science like physics), then maybe go back to computing. Cannot catch up with the 70s!

KirinDave 10y ago
No one cares about Squeak anymore. We have browsers.
- pierre_d528 10y ago
  Average web page is > 2MB[1] Lol... you are really clueless. [1]: https://www.soasta.com/blog/page-bloat-average-web-page-2-mb/ https://www.soasta.com/blog/page-bloat-average-web-page-2-mb...
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    But that's mostly raster images and fonts. Code density is quite low, and JavaScript takes many cues from SmallTalk. "Lol." A technical term.
majewsky 10y ago
My physics diploma says that you're not contributing any useful arguments to the discussion at hand.
- pierre_d528 10y ago
  Your contribution is very interesting : it shows how little a diploma (a.k.a. "education") has to do with any kind of ability to produce anything useful. http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/475.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/475.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/538.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/538.abstract http://ner.sagepub.com/content/224/1/R29.abstract http://ner.sagepub.com/content/224/1/R29.abstract https://newrepublic.com/article/124943/america-overeducation-problem https://newrepublic.com/article/124943/america-overeducation... http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304393294900477 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/03043932949... https://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/lpritch/Education%20-%20docs/ED%20-%20Econ%20Growth,%20impact/where%20has%20all%20the%20education%20gone.pdf https://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/lpritch/Education%20-%20docs/... http://repec.iza.org/dp5401.pdf http://repec.iza.org/dp5401.pdf http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2013/December/Differences-in-students-GCSE-scores-owe-more-to-genetics-than-environment.aspx http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2013/December/Differ... http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289605001078 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289605... https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862754 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862754 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-going-broke-by-degree/#61726d15618a http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-goi... https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/01/18/study_finds_large_numbers_of_college_students_don_t_learn_much https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/01/18/study_finds_l... https://www.amazon.com/Academically-Adrift-Limited-Learning-Campuses/dp/0226028569 https://www.amazon.com/Academically-Adrift-Limited-Learning-... http://www.opencolleges.edu.au/informed/features/21-myths-that-undermine-educational-effectiveness/ http://www.opencolleges.edu.au/informed/features/21-myths-th... http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/06/federal-student-loan-programs-subsidize-waste-and-redistribution-to-the-wealthy/#581f3406fbcc http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/06/federal-stud... http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/ http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus... http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-going-broke-by-degree/#7a41f9f3618a http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-goi... https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2012-12-31/research-prowess-of-u-s-colleges-is-exaggerated https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2012-12-31/research-... http://economics.mit.edu/files/10414 http://economics.mit.edu/files/10414 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040162505000235 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040162505... http://www.nber.org/papers/w18315 http://www.nber.org/papers/w18315 http://www.nber.org/papers/w19895 http://www.nber.org/papers/w19895 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/upshot/how-to-improve-graduation-rates-at-community-colleges.html?_r= http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/upshot/how-to-improve-grad... http://hechingerreport.org/how-often-do-community-college-students-who-get-transfer-get-bachelors-degrees/ http://hechingerreport.org/how-often-do-community-college-st... https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=40 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=40 http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-i... http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/05/28/half-of-college-grads-are-working-jobs-that-dont-require-a-degree/#76325ab310bb http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/05/28/half-of-co...

KirinDave 10y ago

No one cares about Squeak anymore. We have browsers.

pierre_d528 10y ago
Average web page is > 2MB[1] Lol... you are really clueless. [1]: https://www.soasta.com/blog/page-bloat-average-web-page-2-mb/ https://www.soasta.com/blog/page-bloat-average-web-page-2-mb...
- KirinDave 10y ago
  But that's mostly raster images and fonts. Code density is quite low, and JavaScript takes many cues from SmallTalk. "Lol." A technical term.

majewsky 10y ago

My physics diploma says that you're not contributing any useful arguments to the discussion at hand.

pierre_d528 10y ago
Your contribution is very interesting : it shows how little a diploma (a.k.a. "education") has to do with any kind of ability to produce anything useful. http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/475.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/475.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/538.abstract http://oxrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/538.abstract http://ner.sagepub.com/content/224/1/R29.abstract http://ner.sagepub.com/content/224/1/R29.abstract https://newrepublic.com/article/124943/america-overeducation-problem https://newrepublic.com/article/124943/america-overeducation... http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304393294900477 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/03043932949... https://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/lpritch/Education%20-%20docs/ED%20-%20Econ%20Growth,%20impact/where%20has%20all%20the%20education%20gone.pdf https://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/lpritch/Education%20-%20docs/... http://repec.iza.org/dp5401.pdf http://repec.iza.org/dp5401.pdf http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2013/December/Differences-in-students-GCSE-scores-owe-more-to-genetics-than-environment.aspx http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2013/December/Differ... http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289605001078 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289605... https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862754 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862754 http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-going-broke-by-degree/#61726d15618a http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-goi... https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/01/18/study_finds_large_numbers_of_college_students_don_t_learn_much https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/01/18/study_finds_l... https://www.amazon.com/Academically-Adrift-Limited-Learning-Campuses/dp/0226028569 https://www.amazon.com/Academically-Adrift-Limited-Learning-... http://www.opencolleges.edu.au/informed/features/21-myths-that-undermine-educational-effectiveness/ http://www.opencolleges.edu.au/informed/features/21-myths-th... http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/06/federal-student-loan-programs-subsidize-waste-and-redistribution-to-the-wealthy/#581f3406fbcc http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/06/federal-stud... http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/ http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus... http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-going-broke-by-degree/#7a41f9f3618a http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2016/11/01/are-we-still-goi... https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2012-12-31/research-prowess-of-u-s-colleges-is-exaggerated https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2012-12-31/research-... http://economics.mit.edu/files/10414 http://economics.mit.edu/files/10414 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040162505000235 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040162505... http://www.nber.org/papers/w18315 http://www.nber.org/papers/w18315 http://www.nber.org/papers/w19895 http://www.nber.org/papers/w19895 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/upshot/how-to-improve-graduation-rates-at-community-colleges.html?_r= http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/upshot/how-to-improve-grad... http://hechingerreport.org/how-often-do-community-college-students-who-get-transfer-get-bachelors-degrees/ http://hechingerreport.org/how-often-do-community-college-st... https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=40 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=40 http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-i... http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/05/28/half-of-college-grads-are-working-jobs-that-dont-require-a-degree/#76325ab310bb http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/05/28/half-of-co...