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"To date, the U.S. has spent more than $60 billion in reconstruction grants to help Iraq get back on its feet after the country was broken by more than two deca

"To date, the U.S. has spent more than $60 billion in reconstruction grants to help Iraq get back on its feet after the country was broken by more than two decades of war, sanctions and dictatorship. That works out to about $15 million a day. And yet Iraq's government is rife with corruption and infighting." http://www.cbsnews.com/news/much-of-60b-from-us-to-rebuild-iraq-wasted-special-auditors-final-report-to-congress-shows/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/much-of-60b-from-us-to-rebuild-i...

AnimalMuppet 10y ago
I didn't say we didn't spend money. But if you look at what we did to Germany and Japan, the extent of the control of our occupation, rebuilding their government from the ground up for most of a decade, there's no comparison with Iraq. We wanted to have few people there, and not for long. And it didn't work.
- mikeash 10y ago
  I think a big factor in the relative ease of turning Germany and Japan to our side was killing millions of them first, and especially the men of fighting age. Nothing quite says "you should probably not rebel against our occupation" like slaughtering the people who would be fighting, and wrecking entire cities in the process. Of course, such techniques would have been a tough sell in 2003. (And rightfully so.)
- maxerickson 10y ago
  It's been postulated that purging the Ba'ath Party made rebuilding Iraq more difficult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba'athification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba'athification The argument goes that a more measured policy could still have eliminated most of the bad actors while maintaining a higher level of governance and services.
astrodust 10y ago
In Germany and Japan the police and political infrastructure was left mostly intact, and people were dismissed or arrested after being investigated. In Iraq the entire government including the police were basically disbanded without warning which lead to immediate chaos.

AnimalMuppet 10y ago

I didn't say we didn't spend money. But if you look at what we did to Germany and Japan, the extent of the control of our occupation, rebuilding their government from the ground up for most of a decade, there's no comparison with Iraq. We wanted to have few people there, and not for long. And it didn't work.

mikeash 10y ago
I think a big factor in the relative ease of turning Germany and Japan to our side was killing millions of them first, and especially the men of fighting age. Nothing quite says "you should probably not rebel against our occupation" like slaughtering the people who would be fighting, and wrecking entire cities in the process. Of course, such techniques would have been a tough sell in 2003. (And rightfully so.)
maxerickson 10y ago
It's been postulated that purging the Ba'ath Party made rebuilding Iraq more difficult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba'athification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba'athification The argument goes that a more measured policy could still have eliminated most of the bad actors while maintaining a higher level of governance and services.

astrodust 10y ago

In Germany and Japan the police and political infrastructure was left mostly intact, and people were dismissed or arrested after being investigated. In Iraq the entire government including the police were basically disbanded without warning which lead to immediate chaos.