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That's true, but removing the profit motive of the facility removes one major incentive for coordinated, large scale corruption like this. Other incentives (li

That's true, but removing the profit motive of the facility removes one major incentive for coordinated, large scale corruption like this. Other incentives (like production-based compensation being gamed by unscrupulous individuals) will have to be dealt with in other ways.

sageikosa 10y ago
So without profit, the operating metric will be what exactly?
- danso 10y ago
  Er...are you questioning the existential purposes of the non-profit sector in general, or just non-profit healthcare?
  - sageikosa 10y ago
    Just trying to point out that human action without profit requires something else to account for the costs; otherwise there is no way to judge comparatively how limited resources should be applied. So if there isn't going to be profit driven activity, what will be the metric for success? If it is "outcomes", then we should start plowing everything we've got into it. Of course, should that mean we stop plowing resources into other endeavors? Do we make a vote of it? A law case?
- bandrami 10y ago
  In healthcare we have this amazing thing called "outcomes".
- deleted 10y ago
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- gurneyHaleck 10y ago
  I can see it now: "This graph depicting revenue reveals that the maternity ward is quite the cost center. It should be going up and to the right! Smithers, why are there so few pregnancies? We need more in-patients, otherwise our overhead starts eating away at our profits." "Well, sir, I suppose there aren't as many teen pregnancies as there used to be, and with the benefit of modern procedures, the pregnancies we do see are fairly uncomplicated..." "Uncomplicated?! Why, everyone knows live vaginal births are the devil's causeway. Those infants can't be as healthy as these so- called 'doctors' seem to believe. See to it that more tests are performed. I'm sure we can find something wrong with some of these freeloaders." ...enter Dr. Nick. "Hi, everybody!"
  - sageikosa 10y ago
    You'll just need to have permission before you can get pregnant; cost problem solved (except for the expanding bureaucracy to manage the rules and operations of maternity).
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  Patient outcomes?

sageikosa 10y ago

So without profit, the operating metric will be what exactly?

danso 10y ago
Er...are you questioning the existential purposes of the non-profit sector in general, or just non-profit healthcare?
- sageikosa 10y ago
  Just trying to point out that human action without profit requires something else to account for the costs; otherwise there is no way to judge comparatively how limited resources should be applied. So if there isn't going to be profit driven activity, what will be the metric for success? If it is "outcomes", then we should start plowing everything we've got into it. Of course, should that mean we stop plowing resources into other endeavors? Do we make a vote of it? A law case?
bandrami 10y ago
In healthcare we have this amazing thing called "outcomes".
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gurneyHaleck 10y ago
I can see it now: "This graph depicting revenue reveals that the maternity ward is quite the cost center. It should be going up and to the right! Smithers, why are there so few pregnancies? We need more in-patients, otherwise our overhead starts eating away at our profits." "Well, sir, I suppose there aren't as many teen pregnancies as there used to be, and with the benefit of modern procedures, the pregnancies we do see are fairly uncomplicated..." "Uncomplicated?! Why, everyone knows live vaginal births are the devil's causeway. Those infants can't be as healthy as these so- called 'doctors' seem to believe. See to it that more tests are performed. I'm sure we can find something wrong with some of these freeloaders." ...enter Dr. Nick. "Hi, everybody!"
- sageikosa 10y ago
  You'll just need to have permission before you can get pregnant; cost problem solved (except for the expanding bureaucracy to manage the rules and operations of maternity).
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Patient outcomes?