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How can they earn more when all the money is at the hands of Trump and others who make up 1%? The current capitalism is not distributing the wealth very well an

How can they earn more when all the money is at the hands of Trump and others who make up 1%? The current capitalism is not distributing the wealth very well and it's certainly nearing a disaster. I wish the left had an answer but they don't. They're stuck with political correctness and more extreme are can't see that they don't have an answer to capitalism and that everything they've tried in the past has failed, and working class have found a billionaire to be their champion and think that migrants and non-white and non-Christian people are to blame for their suffering. And nobody is willing to attack the current system and inequality it's created. Especially in US.

jhoechtl 10y ago
Everything you wrote is so true!
humanrebar 10y ago
> I wish the left had an answer but they don't. The left is the 1% as well. How much money do the Clintons have? A lot. How much Wall Street support did Obama have? A lot. If Hollywood isn't the 1%, what are they? > ...working class have found a billionaire to be their champion... Thiel is interesting partly because he's a business leader that talks about politics and isn't explicitly liberal. That is, he's an exception that proves the rule. > ...and think that migrants and non-white and non-Christian people are to blame for their suffering... Some do. But most have more complex motivations involving economics, democracy, and fighting (in their minds) corruption and hypocrisy. The Left won't make any positive progress here unless they try to understand their neighbors. This is why "Love Trumps Hate" rings really hollow to most of the people I ask about these things.
- ionised 10y ago
  The problem is the political landscape has lurched so far to the right that we've hit a point where some people actually consider Obama and Clinton to be 'left'.
  - humanrebar 10y ago
    Nationalized healthcare has always been on the left in America. And I'd argue that Trump has much more in common with progressive-era Democrats (like Wilson) than he does with "the right" in modern America. If this isn't the election where we throw away (or at least officially redefine) the concept of "left" and "right", I'm not sure there will be one.
eli_gottlieb 10y ago
>I wish the left had an answer but they don't. They're stuck with political correctness and more extreme are can't see that they don't have an answer to capitalism and that everything they've tried in the past has failed Were you paying attention to a guy called Bernie Sanders? He was the first actual leftist to run for high office in the USA in generations. Clinton was a wishy-washy centrist who could barely even pretend to be throwing scraps to the Sanders movement.

jhoechtl 10y ago

Everything you wrote is so true!

humanrebar 10y ago

> I wish the left had an answer but they don't. The left is the 1% as well. How much money do the Clintons have? A lot. How much Wall Street support did Obama have? A lot. If Hollywood isn't the 1%, what are they? > ...working class have found a billionaire to be their champion... Thiel is interesting partly because he's a business leader that talks about politics and isn't explicitly liberal. That is, he's an exception that proves the rule. > ...and think that migrants and non-white and non-Christian people are to blame for their suffering... Some do. But most have more complex motivations involving economics, democracy, and fighting (in their minds) corruption and hypocrisy. The Left won't make any positive progress here unless they try to understand their neighbors. This is why "Love Trumps Hate" rings really hollow to most of the people I ask about these things.

ionised 10y ago
The problem is the political landscape has lurched so far to the right that we've hit a point where some people actually consider Obama and Clinton to be 'left'.
- humanrebar 10y ago
  Nationalized healthcare has always been on the left in America. And I'd argue that Trump has much more in common with progressive-era Democrats (like Wilson) than he does with "the right" in modern America. If this isn't the election where we throw away (or at least officially redefine) the concept of "left" and "right", I'm not sure there will be one.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

>I wish the left had an answer but they don't. They're stuck with political correctness and more extreme are can't see that they don't have an answer to capitalism and that everything they've tried in the past has failed Were you paying attention to a guy called Bernie Sanders? He was the first actual leftist to run for high office in the USA in generations. Clinton was a wishy-washy centrist who could barely even pretend to be throwing scraps to the Sanders movement.