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There is no truth to what Zuckerberg said - the guy has said many idiotic things in his life, and this one ranks near the top. You're picking the author's websi

by GuiA 10y ago

There is no truth to what Zuckerberg said - the guy has said many idiotic things in his life, and this one ranks near the top. You're picking the author's website as an example, but it's a single datapoint - not representative of anything. Many younger people code much worse things, and many older people code much better things. I'm slowly reaching 30 (agh), and I refuse to work in any team that doesn't have any members above at least 40. In all the teams that I've worked in, having people in the team (not necessarily management) who have been around for more than a few decades has always been extremely valuable. My best managers have been a man in his 50s, and a woman in her 60s. My worse managers and colleagues have consistently been too young and too inexperienced and too cocky.

sean_patel 10y ago
> but it's a single datapoint Thanks. But isn't your experience with very old managers also a single datapoint, or at best, a dozen datapoints?
- GuiA 10y ago
  I have a few hundred data points of coworkers in my career at this point (maybe even low thousands), and the number of "out of touch old guy" I've encountered pales in comparison to the number of "arrogant clueless young guy" I've had to bear. (interestingly enough, I've had many good female colleagues, a few great ones, and no terrible ones)
  - tclancy 10y ago
    >I've had many good female colleagues, a few great ones, and no terrible ones) Pretty much the same here. It's a disappointing confirmation of the idea to survive a woman has to be twice as good.
rmason 10y ago
If I was to meet Zuckerberg I'd quiz him on that quote and ask him, did you A/B test that? If he did boy would he be in for a surprise ;<).
gaius 10y ago
It's not what he said so much as that he said it out loud to a room full of people and no one batted an eyelid. Imagine the shitstorm if he had said "whites are just smarter" - the lack thereof demonstrates that the ageism problem is very real (probably the only form of discrimination left).

by GuiA 10y ago

sean_patel 10y ago

> but it's a single datapoint Thanks. But isn't your experience with very old managers also a single datapoint, or at best, a dozen datapoints?

GuiA 10y ago
I have a few hundred data points of coworkers in my career at this point (maybe even low thousands), and the number of "out of touch old guy" I've encountered pales in comparison to the number of "arrogant clueless young guy" I've had to bear. (interestingly enough, I've had many good female colleagues, a few great ones, and no terrible ones)
- tclancy 10y ago
  >I've had many good female colleagues, a few great ones, and no terrible ones) Pretty much the same here. It's a disappointing confirmation of the idea to survive a woman has to be twice as good.

rmason 10y ago

If I was to meet Zuckerberg I'd quiz him on that quote and ask him, did you A/B test that? If he did boy would he be in for a surprise ;<).

gaius 10y ago

It's not what he said so much as that he said it out loud to a room full of people and no one batted an eyelid. Imagine the shitstorm if he had said "whites are just smarter" - the lack thereof demonstrates that the ageism problem is very real (probably the only form of discrimination left).