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"Finder (nee Archive Utility) should just execute the task without any visual feedback" -- no.
by hughw 10y ago
"Finder (nee Archive Utility) should just execute the task without any visual feedback" -- no.
- hyperpape 10y agoI also thought that was wrong. One idea is a progress window if the task takes more than a few seconds, plus some visual indicator for success.
- blt 10y agoThis isn't a dichotomy. It's possible to make a fast-performing GUI for this task. The GUI is slow due to poor engineering.
- hyperpape 10y agoThat's true, but I'd argue that a window that appears and disappears within substantially less than one second is often a bad idea anyway. Progress indicators are for things you wait on.
- hbosch 10y agoI agree there should be visual feedback, but maybe more of a compromise. E.g. bundle all unzip tasks into 1 single progress bar and rotate text strings for informing which task is underway. The "dancing" modal is quite ridiculous.
- nayuki 10y agoThis is basically what happens in third-party tools. For example if you use 7-Zip on Windows to unzip multiple archives, there is only one progress window and progress bar, and it will display the names of each archive being extracted one after another.
- wruza 10y agoIf operation takes more than human's average reaction time, progress should be shown. Usually 250ms. Jef Raskin and others wrote a bookshelf about that a decade ago, but I still see strange solutions everywhere.
- aidenn0 10y agoIn this case it's showing a 24 progress bars each for an item that takes less than 1ms.
- pvdebbe 10y agoJ Nielsen would disagree with you. A subsecond operation could very well operate without visual feedback and only after that start showing the progress. Does finder have a way to show messages in status bar or some such? For quick ops it would be ideal to say, "operation completed".
- kalleboo 10y agoApple disagrees - the Finder already handles this without any visual feedback for file copy operations - you don't get a file copy progress dialog if it takes less time than you need to react (just an audio confirmation).