5 ms·

I finally wrote my own editor so that I'd have something that works exactly the way that I want an editor to work. I don't need a built-in e-mail reader or ELI

I finally wrote my own editor so that I'd have something that works exactly the way that I want an editor to work. I don't need a built-in e-mail reader or ELIZA clone or scripting language, just really good interaction with UNIX text processing commands.

cschmidt 10y ago
You should open source it. I find it interesting that there is so little exploration of how an editor should work outside of the emacs and vim models. It is like those are the only two possible ways.
- pklausler 10y ago
  Did. https://github.com/pklausler/aoeui https://github.com/pklausler/aoeui
  - wccrawford 10y ago
    In my head that's pronounced like, "Yowie!" I was just wondering how you pronounce it.
    - pklausler 10y ago
      It's spelled 'aoeui' but it's pronounced 'Throat-Warbler Mangrove'.
      - proteinbased 10y ago
        I thought it would be 'luxury yacht' ;)
  - cschmidt 10y ago
    Good name for a Dvorak optimized editor aoeui ~ qwerty (but on a different row)
- garaetjjte 10y ago
  There is third model in GUI apps: ^C copy, ^V paste, ^S save, ^F find, ^H find&replace, ^G goto, shift+cursors selects text.
  - cschmidt 10y ago
    Sure, good point. You have the Sublime/Textmate/Atom model too. I was talking among TUI editors.
  - hisham_hm 10y ago
    Which is the model I use in the console text editor I wrote for my own use: http://hisham.hm/dit/ http://hisham.hm/dit/ (Incidentally, I am _also_ a Dvorak user! How many of us Dvorak-users-with-homegrown-editors are there?)
marssaxman 10y ago
I ultimately did the same. I doubt anyone else will ever use it, but it was fun to create and it suits me (almost) perfectly. There's something comfortable about knowing every detail of the environment I spend most of my day using; it has every feature I use regularly and none of the ones I don't. Interesting that you are also a Dvorak user. I originally learned to type on a Dvorak keyboard, and have only ever been able to hunt-and-peck on QWERTY. I imagine that vim's interface might seem like less of an incomprehensible, memory-dependent maze if one's fingers were accustomed to QWERTY. I tried to learn it once, with a little cheat sheet taped to my monitor, but I've never been any good at rote memorization, so I didn't really get anywhere with it and went back to nano.
- nerdponx 10y ago
  I'm a little surprised there isnt some kind of standardized Dvorak compatibility layer by now
- 0x38B 10y ago
  I switched to Colemak last year, and decided not to do any remapping. After a few weeks, I had no problems using Vim with the new layout. It helps that Colemak doesn't completely rearrange the keyboard. Now my problem is that using Vim with any layout other than Colemak (read: QWERTY) is awkward.
shalabhc 10y ago
While we're on the topic of other editors - I found an editor that I could customize to work exactly the way I want (https://howl.io https://howl.io). And yes, I've used Emacs and written elisp to try and do the same - it just wasn't friendly enough for me.

cschmidt 10y ago

You should open source it. I find it interesting that there is so little exploration of how an editor should work outside of the emacs and vim models. It is like those are the only two possible ways.

pklausler 10y ago
Did. https://github.com/pklausler/aoeui https://github.com/pklausler/aoeui
- wccrawford 10y ago
  In my head that's pronounced like, "Yowie!" I was just wondering how you pronounce it.
  - pklausler 10y ago
    It's spelled 'aoeui' but it's pronounced 'Throat-Warbler Mangrove'.
    - proteinbased 10y ago
      I thought it would be 'luxury yacht' ;)
- cschmidt 10y ago
  Good name for a Dvorak optimized editor aoeui ~ qwerty (but on a different row)
garaetjjte 10y ago
There is third model in GUI apps: ^C copy, ^V paste, ^S save, ^F find, ^H find&replace, ^G goto, shift+cursors selects text.
- cschmidt 10y ago
  Sure, good point. You have the Sublime/Textmate/Atom model too. I was talking among TUI editors.
- hisham_hm 10y ago
  Which is the model I use in the console text editor I wrote for my own use: http://hisham.hm/dit/ http://hisham.hm/dit/ (Incidentally, I am _also_ a Dvorak user! How many of us Dvorak-users-with-homegrown-editors are there?)

marssaxman 10y ago

I ultimately did the same. I doubt anyone else will ever use it, but it was fun to create and it suits me (almost) perfectly. There's something comfortable about knowing every detail of the environment I spend most of my day using; it has every feature I use regularly and none of the ones I don't. Interesting that you are also a Dvorak user. I originally learned to type on a Dvorak keyboard, and have only ever been able to hunt-and-peck on QWERTY. I imagine that vim's interface might seem like less of an incomprehensible, memory-dependent maze if one's fingers were accustomed to QWERTY. I tried to learn it once, with a little cheat sheet taped to my monitor, but I've never been any good at rote memorization, so I didn't really get anywhere with it and went back to nano.

nerdponx 10y ago
I'm a little surprised there isnt some kind of standardized Dvorak compatibility layer by now
0x38B 10y ago
I switched to Colemak last year, and decided not to do any remapping. After a few weeks, I had no problems using Vim with the new layout. It helps that Colemak doesn't completely rearrange the keyboard. Now my problem is that using Vim with any layout other than Colemak (read: QWERTY) is awkward.

shalabhc 10y ago

While we're on the topic of other editors - I found an editor that I could customize to work exactly the way I want (https://howl.io https://howl.io). And yes, I've used Emacs and written elisp to try and do the same - it just wasn't friendly enough for me.