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I'm a vim-guy. I've been using vimoutliner (https://github.com/vimoutliner/vimoutliner https://github.com/vimoutliner/vimoutliner) for my todo lists, since I pu

by dude01 10y ago

I'm a vim-guy. I've been using vimoutliner (https://github.com/vimoutliner/vimoutliner https://github.com/vimoutliner/vimoutliner) for my todo lists, since I put my notes inside my todo lists. With vimoutliner, you can make any line have a checkbox [_], and it understands that a top-level is done only if all of its children are done.

pmoriarty 10y ago
I tried vimoutliner (and some other org-mode clones in vim) shortly after I switched to emacs and learned to use org-mode, and found that these clones weren't anywhere near as powerful as org. As far as I know, there really is no substitute.
sujay_m 10y ago
Its true that org mode is useful for organising various stuff, but it can also do other things, literate programming. it also lets you work with multiple programming languages at the same time. I think that is more powerful than even the jupyter notebooks. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html
- akkartik 10y ago
  Yes, super jealous of org mode. For my literate programming I try to follow the Vim philosophy of delegating to external tools: http://akkartik.name/post/wart-layers http://akkartik.name/post/wart-layers. My approach adds some new capabilities, but it's not nearly as nice an experience.
dmos62 10y ago
I'm somewhat drawn to helpers like this, but what ends up being a pollutant for me is the system within a system paradigm. With emacs I have the same problem. I enjoy the UNIX philosophy where one program should do one thing and interesting things come from composing them. I'd love for similar helpers, as I've called them, to be implemented as cli tools. You would then call them from vim for example. Interactivity would be sacrificed, but I don't value it lot. This probably makes me a purist or some other -ist.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  If it comforts you, think of Emacs as a VM, which happens to automatically boot into a text editor.

by dude01 10y ago

pmoriarty 10y ago

I tried vimoutliner (and some other org-mode clones in vim) shortly after I switched to emacs and learned to use org-mode, and found that these clones weren't anywhere near as powerful as org. As far as I know, there really is no substitute.

sujay_m 10y ago

Its true that org mode is useful for organising various stuff, but it can also do other things, literate programming. it also lets you work with multiple programming languages at the same time. I think that is more powerful than even the jupyter notebooks. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html

akkartik 10y ago
Yes, super jealous of org mode. For my literate programming I try to follow the Vim philosophy of delegating to external tools: http://akkartik.name/post/wart-layers http://akkartik.name/post/wart-layers. My approach adds some new capabilities, but it's not nearly as nice an experience.

dmos62 10y ago

I'm somewhat drawn to helpers like this, but what ends up being a pollutant for me is the system within a system paradigm. With emacs I have the same problem. I enjoy the UNIX philosophy where one program should do one thing and interesting things come from composing them. I'd love for similar helpers, as I've called them, to be implemented as cli tools. You would then call them from vim for example. Interactivity would be sacrificed, but I don't value it lot. This probably makes me a purist or some other -ist.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
If it comforts you, think of Emacs as a VM, which happens to automatically boot into a text editor.