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Yep. Education isnt the goal, menial job placement is. Its cynical, but also true, that an educated populous would grind America to a halt, because we're reli

Yep. Education isnt the goal, menial job placement is. Its cynical, but also true, that an educated populous would grind America to a halt, because we're reliant on people doing a lot of menial jobs... and educated people dont do those jobs...

admax88q 10y ago
> Education isnt the goal, menial job placement is. I disagree. Plenty of times through school I heard complaints of "When will I need this in the real world!" and numerous comments online complaining about education (particularly arts and social science curricula in university) not preparing people for jobs. Plenty of things I learned in primary school, high school and in my Engineering degree are not applicable to my day job but did make me a more educated person. It's funny to witness the education system get simultaneously criticised for not preparing people for the workforce and also only preparing people for the workforce.
- jmcdiesel 10y ago
  "Plenty of times through school I heard complaints of "When will I need this in the real world!" and numerous comments online complaining about education (particularly arts and social science curricula in university) not preparing people for jobs." Both of these are correct - and they corroborate my point. The skills taught, they don't prepare you for a real world job - they teach you to stay in line, as few questions, and do what you're told. Thats what you need to be tought to work in a factory or plow a field... or stand behind a cash register. They don't prepare you for "good" jobs... they prepare you for menial jobs. If everyone came out of high school with real knowledge and real skills, nobody would run the cash register at the gas station for minimum wage...
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  > Plenty of things I learned in primary school, high school and in my Engineering degree are not applicable to my day job but did make me a more educated person. It doesn't matter. There must be something that can be taught to you and later used to grade you. Whether it's maths or arts or history of the good deeds of Comrade Stalin, it doesn't matter. What matters is the series of filters, at the end of which is entering the job market. Even the parents don't care what you're being taught - only that you are good at it, so that you can go to better higher-level schools, and get a better diploma at the end. Only few parents and teachers with ideals give a shit about the actual content of the education material... As for job usefulness, 90% of stuff you'll have to learn on the job anyway.
  - dhimes 10y ago
    As for job usefulness, 90% of stuff you'll have to learn on the job anyway. Of course. Education is about laying the foundation, giving you a bounty of contexts with which you can make faster associations and more quickly learn what you need for the job.
- na85 10y ago
  Not sure why you are being down voted. Perhaps people are just bitter at school.

admax88q 10y ago

> Education isnt the goal, menial job placement is. I disagree. Plenty of times through school I heard complaints of "When will I need this in the real world!" and numerous comments online complaining about education (particularly arts and social science curricula in university) not preparing people for jobs. Plenty of things I learned in primary school, high school and in my Engineering degree are not applicable to my day job but did make me a more educated person. It's funny to witness the education system get simultaneously criticised for not preparing people for the workforce and also only preparing people for the workforce.

jmcdiesel 10y ago
"Plenty of times through school I heard complaints of "When will I need this in the real world!" and numerous comments online complaining about education (particularly arts and social science curricula in university) not preparing people for jobs." Both of these are correct - and they corroborate my point. The skills taught, they don't prepare you for a real world job - they teach you to stay in line, as few questions, and do what you're told. Thats what you need to be tought to work in a factory or plow a field... or stand behind a cash register. They don't prepare you for "good" jobs... they prepare you for menial jobs. If everyone came out of high school with real knowledge and real skills, nobody would run the cash register at the gas station for minimum wage...
TeMPOraL 10y ago
> Plenty of things I learned in primary school, high school and in my Engineering degree are not applicable to my day job but did make me a more educated person. It doesn't matter. There must be something that can be taught to you and later used to grade you. Whether it's maths or arts or history of the good deeds of Comrade Stalin, it doesn't matter. What matters is the series of filters, at the end of which is entering the job market. Even the parents don't care what you're being taught - only that you are good at it, so that you can go to better higher-level schools, and get a better diploma at the end. Only few parents and teachers with ideals give a shit about the actual content of the education material... As for job usefulness, 90% of stuff you'll have to learn on the job anyway.
- dhimes 10y ago
  As for job usefulness, 90% of stuff you'll have to learn on the job anyway. Of course. Education is about laying the foundation, giving you a bounty of contexts with which you can make faster associations and more quickly learn what you need for the job.
na85 10y ago
Not sure why you are being down voted. Perhaps people are just bitter at school.