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I like the parody but it's not really a fair comparison. In many cases paved roads evolve out of country roads while nothing can ever evolve out of Flash.

by th 16y ago

Qz 16y ago
Having biked 5073 miles across the country in question on many of those country roads, I can say that they tend to have a certain 'rustic charm' despite all the bumps. The same could be said of Flash content on the web, in 2020. Do we really just want to throw all that content in the trash, never to be viewed or interacted with again?
- pohl 16y ago
  I already have strawberry pancakes, badger badger mushroom, etc. indelibly etched into my brain. No runtime required.
ANH 16y ago
Worth a chuckle, but yes, not really fair.
sendos 16y ago
Of course no analogy is perfect, but I fail to see the relevance of your point. Country roads can evolve into paved roads and content that is currently coded in Flash can evolve into content that is coded in HTML5. But today, when I want to turn on to a country road / visit a site with Flash, the iCar / iPad won't let me. I, as a consumer, don't care what that ugly/bumpy thing might evolve into. I care whether I can access it right now. By the way, I own both an iPhone and an iPad, and I like them. It's just that sometimes I wish I could drive them onto "bumpy roads".
- grinich 16y ago
  Is there a phone on the market today that runs Flash?
  - senko 16y ago
    Yes, Nokia N900.
  - brown 16y ago
    N900 runs it swimmingly. <3 my N900
    - grinich 16y ago
      How does it handle mouse hover events?
drawkbox 16y ago
Well, you could also say lots has evolved out of Flash. Quick casual games, fast playing video, micro vector and raster content, experimentation and lots of Flash developers use lots of mathematics (trig, calculus) to make excellent graphic and effects libraries. I think every technology has had something to add in our trial and error machine including Flash. Flash developers are unique people as well because it is a unique tool that merges code and design. Try Neave out if you haven't: http://www.neave.com/ http://www.neave.com/ Flash Earth, planetarium, the rebirth of slick. This stuff won't be cross browser in html5 for years, especially webcam, mic projects. This work is being reimplemented in html5/canvas/svg and it has added benefits.
crux_ 16y ago
This isn't about Flash; it's about homebrew applications, alternative programming languages, and the many other (technical) roads less travelled by.
megablast 16y ago
I think the parody helps people think a bit more about the issue. The problem with the analogy is that all Apple has to do to allow the iCar to run on country roads, is allow people to steer onto it. To get flash onto the iPhone/iPad, they have to allow a completely different development team to run code on the root user of their device. They would have to change the OS, to allow unproven code to run, from a company who can't even get the desktop version to work well.
- andrewescott 16y ago
  This is what Apple already allows with the App Store. Except if your app smells like Adobe.

I like the parody but it's not really a fair comparison. In many cases paved roads evolve out of country roads while nothing can ever evolve out of Flash.

by th 16y ago

I like the parody but it's not really a fair comparison. In many cases paved roads evolve out of country roads while nothing can ever evolve out of Flash.

Qz 16y ago

Having biked 5073 miles across the country in question on many of those country roads, I can say that they tend to have a certain 'rustic charm' despite all the bumps. The same could be said of Flash content on the web, in 2020. Do we really just want to throw all that content in the trash, never to be viewed or interacted with again?

pohl 16y ago
I already have strawberry pancakes, badger badger mushroom, etc. indelibly etched into my brain. No runtime required.

ANH 16y ago

Worth a chuckle, but yes, not really fair.

sendos 16y ago

Of course no analogy is perfect, but I fail to see the relevance of your point. Country roads can evolve into paved roads and content that is currently coded in Flash can evolve into content that is coded in HTML5. But today, when I want to turn on to a country road / visit a site with Flash, the iCar / iPad won't let me. I, as a consumer, don't care what that ugly/bumpy thing might evolve into. I care whether I can access it right now. By the way, I own both an iPhone and an iPad, and I like them. It's just that sometimes I wish I could drive them onto "bumpy roads".

grinich 16y ago
Is there a phone on the market today that runs Flash?
- senko 16y ago
  Yes, Nokia N900.
- brown 16y ago
  N900 runs it swimmingly. <3 my N900
  - grinich 16y ago
    How does it handle mouse hover events?

drawkbox 16y ago

Well, you could also say lots has evolved out of Flash. Quick casual games, fast playing video, micro vector and raster content, experimentation and lots of Flash developers use lots of mathematics (trig, calculus) to make excellent graphic and effects libraries. I think every technology has had something to add in our trial and error machine including Flash. Flash developers are unique people as well because it is a unique tool that merges code and design. Try Neave out if you haven't: http://www.neave.com/ http://www.neave.com/ Flash Earth, planetarium, the rebirth of slick. This stuff won't be cross browser in html5 for years, especially webcam, mic projects. This work is being reimplemented in html5/canvas/svg and it has added benefits.

crux_ 16y ago

This isn't about Flash; it's about homebrew applications, alternative programming languages, and the many other (technical) roads less travelled by.

megablast 16y ago

I think the parody helps people think a bit more about the issue. The problem with the analogy is that all Apple has to do to allow the iCar to run on country roads, is allow people to steer onto it. To get flash onto the iPhone/iPad, they have to allow a completely different development team to run code on the root user of their device. They would have to change the OS, to allow unproven code to run, from a company who can't even get the desktop version to work well.

andrewescott 16y ago
This is what Apple already allows with the App Store. Except if your app smells like Adobe.