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The problem is that these aren't high paying jobs likely like those in actual semiconductor fabrication. Plus, Foxconn already utilizes robots in the majority o

The problem is that these aren't high paying jobs likely like those in actual semiconductor fabrication. Plus, Foxconn already utilizes robots in the majority of it's facilities so you're not going to get much out of this as they continue the process of automation throughout their production processes. Expect some jobs, but most of them will be always replaceable with machines. All that's happened here is Trump got played by Foxconn.

protomyth 10y ago
Do you happen to know what jobs and/or training happens to support the robots?
- norea-armozel 10y ago
  Those jobs are at least one magnitude less in number than the typical assembler/packer job. They also require much more skills so I expect them to pay but that's not enough to offset the losses. Either way, these aren't good paying jobs like being a sander, painter, chem-treat, or CNC operator at an aircraft plant.
  - protomyth 10y ago
    True, but I'm still wondering what an actual "robot technician" job training looks like.
234dd57d2c8db 10y ago
The details of the plan are not released, how can Trump get "played" by Foxconn. You don't even know the deal. And even if they don't create any jobs, they still are investing and contributing tax dollars to the country. Could you explain why that is a bad thing?
- norea-armozel 10y ago
  He was played for two reasons. 1. It's likely Foxconn had already decided this well in advance of the 2016 election cycle. So him winning the election and this projected deal aren't related. 2. Even if him winning the election may have affected the decision it's still not him doing this, it's Foxconn. And the fact he's promoting this deal makes him the stooge for Foxconn. All he did was give them free PR (I hope his advisors told him that). So for a man who claims to have good business sense he basically did something for free. 3. The tax dollars don't matter, it's the fact Trump is like the soupstone guy from the fable. He didn't contribute anything. He produced exactly no value here.
blackguardx 10y ago
I've been in many electronics factories, including ones used by Apple. There is still a lot of human labor. When people talk about robots replacing people in these factories, they aren't talking about robots driving screws or connecting assemblies together. Robots can do that, but many companies' demands for agile manufacturing make them hard to bring in. I was in the factory that makes Apple Earpods. They are one of Apple's highest produced products because they ship with all their iOS devices. All the assembly was done by hand. They were proud that they added a robot to the line. Do you know what the robot did? It moved parts from one station to another station 12 feet away. They previously had a human doing that.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Nevertheless in the last 10 years factory automation has been explosive. Its not all done (or we'd have much higher unemployment) but its hurtling down that road.
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- norea-armozel 10y ago
  Yet assembler jobs don't pay well even now here in the US. Just ask anyone who works a job at Coleman (temp or perm). It's not this panacea for employment.

protomyth 10y ago

Do you happen to know what jobs and/or training happens to support the robots?

norea-armozel 10y ago
Those jobs are at least one magnitude less in number than the typical assembler/packer job. They also require much more skills so I expect them to pay but that's not enough to offset the losses. Either way, these aren't good paying jobs like being a sander, painter, chem-treat, or CNC operator at an aircraft plant.
- protomyth 10y ago
  True, but I'm still wondering what an actual "robot technician" job training looks like.

234dd57d2c8db 10y ago

The details of the plan are not released, how can Trump get "played" by Foxconn. You don't even know the deal. And even if they don't create any jobs, they still are investing and contributing tax dollars to the country. Could you explain why that is a bad thing?

norea-armozel 10y ago
He was played for two reasons. 1. It's likely Foxconn had already decided this well in advance of the 2016 election cycle. So him winning the election and this projected deal aren't related. 2. Even if him winning the election may have affected the decision it's still not him doing this, it's Foxconn. And the fact he's promoting this deal makes him the stooge for Foxconn. All he did was give them free PR (I hope his advisors told him that). So for a man who claims to have good business sense he basically did something for free. 3. The tax dollars don't matter, it's the fact Trump is like the soupstone guy from the fable. He didn't contribute anything. He produced exactly no value here.

blackguardx 10y ago

I've been in many electronics factories, including ones used by Apple. There is still a lot of human labor. When people talk about robots replacing people in these factories, they aren't talking about robots driving screws or connecting assemblies together. Robots can do that, but many companies' demands for agile manufacturing make them hard to bring in. I was in the factory that makes Apple Earpods. They are one of Apple's highest produced products because they ship with all their iOS devices. All the assembly was done by hand. They were proud that they added a robot to the line. Do you know what the robot did? It moved parts from one station to another station 12 feet away. They previously had a human doing that.

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
Nevertheless in the last 10 years factory automation has been explosive. Its not all done (or we'd have much higher unemployment) but its hurtling down that road.
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norea-armozel 10y ago
Yet assembler jobs don't pay well even now here in the US. Just ask anyone who works a job at Coleman (temp or perm). It's not this panacea for employment.