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You asked "Why discuss [...] black people shot by cops". The reason is because I can fix cop shootings, a little at least. I pay for them, etc. Also, the polic

You asked "Why discuss [...] black people shot by cops". The reason is because I can fix cop shootings, a little at least. I pay for them, etc. Also, the police are a voluntary grouping and as such, can be fixed. It'd be irrational to try to fix anyone else, even if I agreed that they needed it too, which I don't. Then you ask "why is police shootings of black men the topic at all", as in versus police violence in general. As a non-black victim of police violence myself, I heartily second the notion that it's not limited to a racial issue. But I can clearly see in the videos that the blacks involved in these issues are acting more politely than I would and getting treated far worse. > read the Scott Alexander blog post I linked to which goes into the gory details. Apples and oranges. I have issues with his statistics as well, such as discounting of entire sets of stats that individually fall below a percentage threshold, etc. Also, being involved one of these incidents that my city minimizes, I'm not entirely happy with a statistical dismissal even if it was correct. > None of your three reasons are remotely related to truth or accuracy. No, they are. I'm putting my attention to the topics I can solve, in the areas that are most-in-need of being fixed. I don't care if something worse is happening where I can't see it, I can only prioritize my actions. At that, I'm happy to ride along with the #BLM group to get the broader issue solved - our employees shooting innocent people.

yummyfajitas 10y ago
Hardly - we can fix black people committing violence against whites (or even the much larger problems of white on white and black on black violence) by directing the police to focus their attention on areas where this is a problem. The right question to ask - assuming you believe that all lives are equally valuable - is to ask the quantitative question of what policies will save more lives. That's a question to be answered with statistics, not values. If you don't believe all lives are equally valuable, that's a difference between your values and mine. No, they are. I'm putting my attention to the topics I can solve... The fact that you can't solve a problem doesn't mean it's a lie or inaccurate to say that the problem exists. And the fact that you continue to pretend it is is exactly why I'm strongly opposed to these attempts to solve "fake news". It's pretty clear that the real goal is just suppressing information that might be politically inconvenient.

yummyfajitas 10y ago

Hardly - we can fix black people committing violence against whites (or even the much larger problems of white on white and black on black violence) by directing the police to focus their attention on areas where this is a problem. The right question to ask - assuming you believe that all lives are equally valuable - is to ask the quantitative question of what policies will save more lives. That's a question to be answered with statistics, not values. If you don't believe all lives are equally valuable, that's a difference between your values and mine. No, they are. I'm putting my attention to the topics I can solve... The fact that you can't solve a problem doesn't mean it's a lie or inaccurate to say that the problem exists. And the fact that you continue to pretend it is is exactly why I'm strongly opposed to these attempts to solve "fake news". It's pretty clear that the real goal is just suppressing information that might be politically inconvenient.