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Ugh, the way this writer talks about women is pretty gross. I know its a piece about two of the most macho types in midcentury literature, but must the author o
by yolesaber 10y ago
Ugh, the way this writer talks about women is pretty gross. I know its a piece about two of the most macho types in midcentury literature, but must the author of the article really refer to women as "conquests"?
- clock_tower 10y agoThanks for the warning -- this sounds borderline NSFW. Will avoid the article while on a work system.
- yolesaber 10y agoI know you are being ironic, but the fact that this is the reply and im getting downvotes just shows how HN thinks about and treats women.
- greglindahl 10y agoPeople who receive downvotes frequently speculate as to why. It's rare that they speculate that they were downvoted for making comments which are flame-bait, uninteresting, or off-topic. I believe that HN could use a huge improvement in how "we" treat women, but I'm not going to point to your comment or downvotes as an example of fighting the good fight.
- yolesaber 10y agoThen what is fighting the good fight if not bringing attention to negative attitudes towards women? It's an article about two very overrated writers who treated women terribly and yet rather than critically approach the attitudes of these authors, the article's writer gleefully revels in their chauvinism. I was bringing it to attention since it is very relevant to the article at hand.
- greglindahl 10y agoYour reaction to downvotes looks extremely flame-baity to me. It certainly makes me cringe. But that's just me, I didn't downvote you.
- killedbydeath 10y agoI am puzzled what you consider being sexist here. It's just consented sex between adults, no need to feel sorry for anyone. Both men and women who have had many partners often get cynical about that and I have heard this kind of language from people of both sexes. And it does not mean treating partners terribly. Two people can meet, have sex and part ways thinking that they had another "conquest" without having any bad feelings about the encounter.
- grzm 10y agoIf this is something you want to discuss, I suggest re-submitting next week after the detox ends. Some of the down-votes you're receiving could be due to members trying to stay in keeping with the detox: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404
- EdHominem 10y agoI've never read an article about Genghis Khan that warns us that murder is bad. It's assumed that we can discuss his actions without making them a template for our own.
- EdHominem 10y agoActually, the post you replied to seemed serious. fwiw, I read that as being in the voice of "his wife's biographer", not the modern author. And either way, to be about the fellow's behavior, not some actual judgement of the worth of women.
- clock_tower 10y agoYou were right; this was sincere. Any article about Literally Vladimir Nabokov is going to be a questionable choice for workplace reading; if the author's cheering on his and Wilson's promiscuity, it's definitely not something you want open when a co-worker comes over.
- clock_tower 10y agoNo, I wasn't being ironic. I'm pretty familiar with how shady both men's sexual ethics were...