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First of all, congratulation and a huge thank you to the core python development team. I know some of them have expressed frustration (or more negative feeling

First of all, congratulation and a huge thank you to the core python development team. I know some of them have expressed frustration (or more negative feelings) at the way some people have been reacting to their work. As the Python ecosystem is progressively moving to Python 3 (according to some stats, the tipping point should be reached in a few months), I hope that this trend of excellent Python 3 releases will continue.

lima 10y ago
Just as an anecdote: I haven't heard _any_ criticism about Python 3 outside of the Hacker News community. In Germany, everyone loves it, if only for the improved Unicode handling.
- danso 10y ago
  Given that the HN community might represent a decent chunk of the overall Python-using community, I wouldn't interpret that as HN being whiners for the sake of whining. For starters, Armin Ronacher has written thorough essays on his dislikes. He comments on HN but his influence is obviously much bigger as a Python developer (Flask, etc). In academia/science, maybe people aren't ripping on 3.x explicitly, But that's because they have the ability to control the work environment and stick with 2.x. They don't rip on 3.x because it's non-existent as far as they are concerned. Example: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~sheldon/teaching/cs335/ http://people.cs.umass.edu/~sheldon/teaching/cs335/ > Programming assignments will use Python, NumPy, and SciPy. The required Python environment is the Anaconda 4.1.1 distribution of Python 2.7. We will not help grade or debug work unless you are working in this environment.
- geezerjay 10y ago
  > I haven't heard _any_ criticism about Python 3 outside of the Hacker News community. That only means you don't participate in any other online community that discusses Python 3 besides Hacker News. For instance, the Python2 Vs Python3 migration issues are widely known even for those who never written a single LoC in Python.

lima 10y ago

Just as an anecdote: I haven't heard _any_ criticism about Python 3 outside of the Hacker News community. In Germany, everyone loves it, if only for the improved Unicode handling.

danso 10y ago
Given that the HN community might represent a decent chunk of the overall Python-using community, I wouldn't interpret that as HN being whiners for the sake of whining. For starters, Armin Ronacher has written thorough essays on his dislikes. He comments on HN but his influence is obviously much bigger as a Python developer (Flask, etc). In academia/science, maybe people aren't ripping on 3.x explicitly, But that's because they have the ability to control the work environment and stick with 2.x. They don't rip on 3.x because it's non-existent as far as they are concerned. Example: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~sheldon/teaching/cs335/ http://people.cs.umass.edu/~sheldon/teaching/cs335/ > Programming assignments will use Python, NumPy, and SciPy. The required Python environment is the Anaconda 4.1.1 distribution of Python 2.7. We will not help grade or debug work unless you are working in this environment.
geezerjay 10y ago
> I haven't heard _any_ criticism about Python 3 outside of the Hacker News community. That only means you don't participate in any other online community that discusses Python 3 besides Hacker News. For instance, the Python2 Vs Python3 migration issues are widely known even for those who never written a single LoC in Python.