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The US should care more about Europe. There are nations in Europe that do not want to be so tightly integrated with EU are very much open to cooperate more with

The US should care more about Europe. There are nations in Europe that do not want to be so tightly integrated with EU are very much open to cooperate more with the Americans and Commonwealth. But they are weak and need assistance first. Help them and they can help you. China is going to remain to be a world within a world. Too few people will be willing to learn Chinese anyway. There are literally millions of Europeans that are culturally more compatible with the US than with the germans / french.

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pipio21 10y ago
I don't think so. Europeans that do not want to be integrated with Europe, because they want to be take their own decisions, don't want to be integrated with the US either. The problem is not the culture, but decisions taken for them without their consent, for example Hungary or Austria being told by external powers(Germany) that they need to accept millions of Muslims. Not different from the US external power telling them that Russia is their new enemy and they have to go to nuclear war because the US tells them so. I have traveled and know most European countries and I don't understand what you say about being more culturally compatible with the US than with Germans or French. Europeans are very similar in culture. For me the difference is mainly in language or in having lived communism or not. I have lived in China and I know what a difference in culture it is. It is not just the culture, but even the mountains are different in China, the trees are different.
- aclsid 10y ago
  I don't think European countries are compatible with anything but their own country's culture. Overall, I see way more homogeneity in Latin America or the US/Canada than in a United Europe. Germans tend to stick with Germans, French with French (and Parisians with Parisians while we are at that), maybe some Dutch and Germans, but I've been to Dutch parties where I was probably one of the few foreigners (and no I was not in the Netherlands). I mean don't get me wrong, on the individual level and once you know a person, it does not matter where they are from, but nationalism/language differences is what allows for a place that is relatively small to have so many countries to remain separate entities and it's the driving force behind the euroskeptics. Exacerbating those feelings is what led to the World Wars.
CoryG89 10y ago
> Too few people will be willing to learn Chinese anyway. Probably won't matter in the future. English is cannibalizing all the other languages. English is the official language in Hong Kong. Not many Chinese know English yet, but they probably will.
- latch 10y ago
  English isn't "the" official language, it's one of the official languages. And, by a wide margin, you're better off knowing Cantonese.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    ...if talking to third-world poor is your goal?
  - aclsid 10y ago
    No shit. For all the talk about Hong Kong being English based, I had a couple of times where I had to rely on my poor Mandarin to get my point across. Totally agree with parent post, better learn some Cantonese, especially for taxi drivers.
rahrahrah 10y ago
You're underestimating the amount of anti-americanism in europe.

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pipio21 10y ago

I don't think so. Europeans that do not want to be integrated with Europe, because they want to be take their own decisions, don't want to be integrated with the US either. The problem is not the culture, but decisions taken for them without their consent, for example Hungary or Austria being told by external powers(Germany) that they need to accept millions of Muslims. Not different from the US external power telling them that Russia is their new enemy and they have to go to nuclear war because the US tells them so. I have traveled and know most European countries and I don't understand what you say about being more culturally compatible with the US than with Germans or French. Europeans are very similar in culture. For me the difference is mainly in language or in having lived communism or not. I have lived in China and I know what a difference in culture it is. It is not just the culture, but even the mountains are different in China, the trees are different.

aclsid 10y ago
I don't think European countries are compatible with anything but their own country's culture. Overall, I see way more homogeneity in Latin America or the US/Canada than in a United Europe. Germans tend to stick with Germans, French with French (and Parisians with Parisians while we are at that), maybe some Dutch and Germans, but I've been to Dutch parties where I was probably one of the few foreigners (and no I was not in the Netherlands). I mean don't get me wrong, on the individual level and once you know a person, it does not matter where they are from, but nationalism/language differences is what allows for a place that is relatively small to have so many countries to remain separate entities and it's the driving force behind the euroskeptics. Exacerbating those feelings is what led to the World Wars.

CoryG89 10y ago

> Too few people will be willing to learn Chinese anyway. Probably won't matter in the future. English is cannibalizing all the other languages. English is the official language in Hong Kong. Not many Chinese know English yet, but they probably will.

latch 10y ago
English isn't "the" official language, it's one of the official languages. And, by a wide margin, you're better off knowing Cantonese.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  ...if talking to third-world poor is your goal?
- aclsid 10y ago
  No shit. For all the talk about Hong Kong being English based, I had a couple of times where I had to rely on my poor Mandarin to get my point across. Totally agree with parent post, better learn some Cantonese, especially for taxi drivers.

rahrahrah 10y ago

You're underestimating the amount of anti-americanism in europe.