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> "thinking your way out of it" is something that's going to be regarded in the future the way that we regard blood-letting a fever now As someone who spent mo
by curun1r 10y ago
> "thinking your way out of it" is something that's going to be regarded in the future the way that we regard blood-letting a fever now
As someone who spent more than a decade struggling with a diagnosed depression and the numbness that came from trying to get better with 5 different prescription drugs that addressed a few symptoms while making the whole thing a lot worse, what worked for me was, eventually, thinking my way out of it. And it's funny that you compare it to some medieval treatment because the method I used to think my way out of it has been taught for 2500 years. The key is you can't just try to think your way out of it. There is a specific technique to meditation and mindfulness that the watered down versions of mindfulness training miss. Go to the source and learn the traditional practice, not the bits and pieces that psychiatrists have tried to marry with more recent psychotherapeutic theory.
Now with daily anapana/vipassana practice, I'm able to live much more in the present moment, which allows for enjoyment and sadness free from the suffering that I now realize was manifesting in my depression. It's a form of delusion to deny or ignore the truth of what's happening right now, no matter how simple that truth might be. And when I delude myself often enough, I start to feel depressed. It's cause and effect, and I see it so clearly now. But now that I understand the cause and how to stop causing it, I can recognize when I'm feeling depressed and bring myself out of it.
Nothing used to frustrate me more than people insinuating that I could fix my depression by just trying harder. And that's what "think yourself out of it" sounded like to me. My motivation was so zapped that that kind of advice just made me more despondent. So I want to make it clear that thinking your way out of depression is not a matter of trying harder. In fact once it clicks, it becomes easier...like riding a bicycle downhill. And that's a good metaphor, because if thinking your way out of it is riding a bicycle, how effective you are at it and how hard you have to work depend entirely on which direction you point, not how hard you pedal.
- chillwaves 10y agoI appreciate your opposing take. There is a lot of push back against non traditional remedies, and also against the pharmaceutical route (in both cases, deserved). As someone else who is suffering, I have found comfort in meditation, mindful practices, and most importantly acceptance. These mental states allow me to function enough to exercise or eat well, or mind my sleep or stay away from drugs (which provides a physiological basis for "getting better"). So I agree you can't just think your way out, but the right frame of mind can provide the momentum to put the rest of the pieces together.