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This political story does not belong on HN.

by idlewords 10y ago

pclstyle 10y ago
out of curiosity, since you seem to be a veteran to HN – what makes this a "political story"?
- DanBC 10y ago
  idlewords is trolling.
  - idlewords 10y ago
    That's a personal attack.
  - dang 10y ago
    No, I think he genuinely cares.
- idlewords 10y ago
  Not only is privacy an inherently political issue, but the point of departure for the article is Apple resisting the FBI. I disagree with dang's decision to impose "political detox" on the site this week, but since he's done it, let's hold him to it.
  - dang 10y ago
    Yes by all means, though the phrase "hold him to it" sounds odd to my ears. You're talking about giving us what we asked for, which I appreciate, especially since you don't agree with the idea, which I respect. I also appreciate your including the qualifier 'this week', because that's a critical detail and one thing I learned yesterday is that there's a risk of it getting lost in the shuffle. We don't want this to go beyond a week, least of all if it was a bad idea in the first place.
    - drewrv 10y ago
      Following absurd rules to the letter is a form of protest. That's what I understand "hold him to it" means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance
edgesrazor 10y ago
It's by William Gibson, so it kind of does.
zzzzzzzzzman 10y ago
lmfao. "I agree, stories like this are very triggering. I come here for code only. I don't want to know about anything related to governments, politics, and fake news EVER again. Thank you mods, please remove ASAP" EDIT: to downvoters, i'm confused, are you for censoring political posts or not? Cause I'm not, lol
- cbr 10y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404
  - zzzzzzzzzman 10y ago
    Thanks for the link, I saw this post yesterday and completely disagree with the "experiment". You can see dang messed with one of my comment chains last week because my decent arguments "incited flame wars". It's all fake and silly micromanagement over a non-existent problem
- SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
  I think that the detox week reeks of the terrible practice of faux "safespaces" and the inclination of technical people to not be as politically involved as they should be and simply deny the importance. That said, it's not my website and if they want to try this for a week, we can. At the end of the week though, I expect that we'll have a discussion about it and hash out if it was a good decision or not. (Im really hoping they'll release a list of posts that were flagged as part of political detox, so we can talk explicitly about which parts we think are good or bad to ban.)

This political story does not belong on HN.

pclstyle 10y ago

out of curiosity, since you seem to be a veteran to HN – what makes this a "political story"?

DanBC 10y ago
idlewords is trolling.
- idlewords 10y ago
  That's a personal attack.
- dang 10y ago
  No, I think he genuinely cares.
idlewords 10y ago
Not only is privacy an inherently political issue, but the point of departure for the article is Apple resisting the FBI. I disagree with dang's decision to impose "political detox" on the site this week, but since he's done it, let's hold him to it.
- dang 10y ago
  Yes by all means, though the phrase "hold him to it" sounds odd to my ears. You're talking about giving us what we asked for, which I appreciate, especially since you don't agree with the idea, which I respect. I also appreciate your including the qualifier 'this week', because that's a critical detail and one thing I learned yesterday is that there's a risk of it getting lost in the shuffle. We don't want this to go beyond a week, least of all if it was a bad idea in the first place.
  - drewrv 10y ago
    Following absurd rules to the letter is a form of protest. That's what I understand "hold him to it" means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance

edgesrazor 10y ago

It's by William Gibson, so it kind of does.

zzzzzzzzzman 10y ago

lmfao. "I agree, stories like this are very triggering. I come here for code only. I don't want to know about anything related to governments, politics, and fake news EVER again. Thank you mods, please remove ASAP" EDIT: to downvoters, i'm confused, are you for censoring political posts or not? Cause I'm not, lol

cbr 10y ago
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404
- zzzzzzzzzman 10y ago
  Thanks for the link, I saw this post yesterday and completely disagree with the "experiment". You can see dang messed with one of my comment chains last week because my decent arguments "incited flame wars". It's all fake and silly micromanagement over a non-existent problem
SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
I think that the detox week reeks of the terrible practice of faux "safespaces" and the inclination of technical people to not be as politically involved as they should be and simply deny the importance. That said, it's not my website and if they want to try this for a week, we can. At the end of the week though, I expect that we'll have a discussion about it and hash out if it was a good decision or not. (Im really hoping they'll release a list of posts that were flagged as part of political detox, so we can talk explicitly about which parts we think are good or bad to ban.)