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> I have a thunderbolt monitor that I bought 1 month before this was released. I would expect such an obvious technophile to have greater awareness of what's g
by extra88 10y ago
> I have a thunderbolt monitor that I bought 1 month before this was released.
I would expect such an obvious technophile to have greater awareness of what's going on in Apple products. The Thunderbolt Display hadn't been updated since its introduction in 2011 and was discontinued in June, seems like a risky purchase.
Note you can use a Thunderbolt Display with MacBook Pros with USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports: "For Mac models with Thunderbolt 3, you can use a use a Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter to connect to Thunderbolt devices like displays and external disks." However, "Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter doesn't support connections to Mini DisplayPort displays" (emphasis added). [0]
> I need the HDMI for presentation
What's so unacceptable about using an adapter? Did you boycott MacBook Pros until they added an HDMI port on their Mid 2012 models? No MacBook Pro ever had a built-in VGA port, the previous (and still pretty common) standard for connecting to projectors and displays in rooms (vs. a monitor on a desk).
> I tried the new keyboard (my friend has one). Hate it.
I have concerns (mine hasn't arrived yet) but I also know I already use an external keyboard far more often than the built-in one. I know keyboard feel is something people get very attached to and I can sort of understand why that could be sufficient to drive someone to a platform change.
> Apple, your new MacBook Pro is pushing an all Apple house out of your eco system.
I don't understand why, your other Apple stuff can happily coexist a non-Apple laptop. If Apple only sold iPhones and iPads to Mac owners, they'd be a much poorer company. USB-C is a new standard, Google has already started using it on Chromebooks and Android phones. The USB-C connector type has been certified for use as an HDMI connector. It's going to be everywhere, Apple's just ahead of the pack, similar to when it adopted the original USB on the original iMac.
I wish Apple used USB-C on the iPhone 7 but I fear they never will because it's thicker than Lightning (and USB Mini) and they're obsessed with thinness.
[0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204154 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204154
- myrandomcomment 10y agoI in no way said I bought an Apple Thunderbolt Display. The fact is I purchased a LG and paid more for it because of the single connection. As to the HDMI I own about 20 display port to VGA because I would forget to bring the adapter and have to buy a new one (100k miles per year, 10 years 3 startups - and yes, I did have a big win - I just like building new stuff). Having the HDMI made that a non-issue. Now I am back to dang, did I remember the adapter?!?!?! The point about co-existence is pretty simple, now that I am looking beyond the walled garden I am and not hard locked it allows me to consider other replacements. I am a hard core engineer that made the jump to the sales and marketing side and lesson number one is never ever ever allow your competition a foot hole, as they will land, grab and expand. Push me off the MacBook Pro (Pro is the key word here) and you have done exactly that. I can deal with the USB-C to be honest - I will buy a dock that does the Thnderbolt but the HDMI and the keyboard are just not well reasoned.
- extra88 10y agoAs the support document I quoted notes, if the display is Thunderbolt and not merely Mini DisplayPort (and it must be Thunderbolt since you mention the single cable carrying non-video protocols), you wouldn't need a dock, just a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter.
- myrandomcomment 10y agoThanks, I will have a look, but the lack of HDMI and the keyboard is the real deal breaker.