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I agree with you generally, but the most damning information about me that's on Facebook was posted by other people.

by araneae 16y ago

tptacek 16y ago
And me leaving Facebook solves that problem how? At least now I see when that kind of stuff happens.
- potatolicious 16y ago
  It's a good point - leaving Facebook won't solve things like drunken pictures posted by your friends. It will, however, stop things like "Yooooo, did you hit that last night? Wasssuppp!" on your Wall that your family, colleagues and potential employers can see.
  - tome 16y ago
    You can choose to make your wall read only.
  - sendos 16y ago
    I always thought the best solution to all this is if we had multiple Facebook accounts, e.g. "Bob Smith (1)", "Bob Smith (2)", etc, and then invited family only to (1), close friends to (2), old high school classmates to (3), etc. This way, if any of them posts something stupid on your wall, only that subgroup will know about it. Then, of course, you'd need an app that lets you post the same status update on all your accounts.
  - abraham 16y ago
    If you have friends like that it is your own fault. Expect duche friends to pull duche moves.
joshhart 16y ago
I had a fraternity brother in college who was gay. At some point in time, he realized that he was gay, but didn't want to come out. An incriminating picture was posted on facebook and he was forced to reveal his sexual orientation to all of us (well we kinda suspected anyway) before he was ready in a pretty awkward way. He had to do the same not that long after with his family and it didn't go well at all. All because someone posted a picture on facebook that was up for less than 30 minutes. I put the blame mainly on the person who put up the picture, but still, he should have had control over this kind of thing.
- derefr 16y ago
  > I put the blame mainly on the person who put up the picture, but still, he should have had control over this kind of thing. Facebook isn't special; it's just a subset of the Internet. If the people at your college had had, say, a mailing list instead, and someone had sent that picture to it (thereby putting a separate, cacheable copy in every person's inbox), would you reason similarly that "he should have had control over this kind of thing"? Just because it's one website, not millions, doesn't mean that anything put onto it won't be leaked back out by bullies, trolls, rumor-mongers or busybodies. There's no such thing as privacy in a network where even a single person is less than 100% trustworthy, no matter the medium.
  - _delirium 16y ago
    In theory, yes; but in practice, Facebook seems to be the main nexus of these sorts of things. There are things that people will post "publicly" on Facebook that they would never dream of making a separate website for to post publicly. You might assume that nobody would post Photo X on Facebook if they wouldn't also be willing to make www.hereisphotox.com, but it's certainly not the case in practice.
  - kareemm 16y ago
    > There's no such thing as privacy in a network where even a single person is less than 100% trustworthy, no matter the medium. Agreed. The issue w/ Facebook is that these "identity collisions" (when an aspect of your identity is exposed to a group of your friends that formerly didn't know, i.e. parents find out you're gay) can happen accidentally far too easily. In other words, it's not about maliciousness... and even if someone did want to spread information about you maliciously, it'd be a hell of a lot more challenging to do so over a mailing list (finding your boss', former co-workers', parents', siblings', friends', etc's email addresses vs tagging a photo or note).
- tome 16y ago
  The problem is that nothing he could have done could have stopped the picture being posted Even if he had no account it wouldn't have stopped people he knows posting and seeing pictures of him.
rit 16y ago
Ditto. I created an account because people kept sharing family photos, etc. with me. For the most part I've set my profile private. However, when my sister started scanning pictures of our childhood and posting them tagged as me, public for the world to see I started get uneasy. Nothing compromising or unusual in them but there's that part of me that wants a say as to when crap like that is posted online. It turns out of course I can "hide" photos tagged of me by other people - but still... Despite having my account private, other people can post pictures and tag them as having me in them. Frustrating.

I agree with you generally, but the most damning information about me that's on Facebook was posted by other people.

by araneae 16y ago

I agree with you generally, but the most damning information about me that's on Facebook was posted by other people.

tptacek 16y ago

And me leaving Facebook solves that problem how? At least now I see when that kind of stuff happens.

potatolicious 16y ago
It's a good point - leaving Facebook won't solve things like drunken pictures posted by your friends. It will, however, stop things like "Yooooo, did you hit that last night? Wasssuppp!" on your Wall that your family, colleagues and potential employers can see.
- tome 16y ago
  You can choose to make your wall read only.
- sendos 16y ago
  I always thought the best solution to all this is if we had multiple Facebook accounts, e.g. "Bob Smith (1)", "Bob Smith (2)", etc, and then invited family only to (1), close friends to (2), old high school classmates to (3), etc. This way, if any of them posts something stupid on your wall, only that subgroup will know about it. Then, of course, you'd need an app that lets you post the same status update on all your accounts.
- abraham 16y ago
  If you have friends like that it is your own fault. Expect duche friends to pull duche moves.

joshhart 16y ago

I had a fraternity brother in college who was gay. At some point in time, he realized that he was gay, but didn't want to come out. An incriminating picture was posted on facebook and he was forced to reveal his sexual orientation to all of us (well we kinda suspected anyway) before he was ready in a pretty awkward way. He had to do the same not that long after with his family and it didn't go well at all. All because someone posted a picture on facebook that was up for less than 30 minutes. I put the blame mainly on the person who put up the picture, but still, he should have had control over this kind of thing.

derefr 16y ago
> I put the blame mainly on the person who put up the picture, but still, he should have had control over this kind of thing. Facebook isn't special; it's just a subset of the Internet. If the people at your college had had, say, a mailing list instead, and someone had sent that picture to it (thereby putting a separate, cacheable copy in every person's inbox), would you reason similarly that "he should have had control over this kind of thing"? Just because it's one website, not millions, doesn't mean that anything put onto it won't be leaked back out by bullies, trolls, rumor-mongers or busybodies. There's no such thing as privacy in a network where even a single person is less than 100% trustworthy, no matter the medium.
- _delirium 16y ago
  In theory, yes; but in practice, Facebook seems to be the main nexus of these sorts of things. There are things that people will post "publicly" on Facebook that they would never dream of making a separate website for to post publicly. You might assume that nobody would post Photo X on Facebook if they wouldn't also be willing to make www.hereisphotox.com, but it's certainly not the case in practice.
- kareemm 16y ago
  > There's no such thing as privacy in a network where even a single person is less than 100% trustworthy, no matter the medium. Agreed. The issue w/ Facebook is that these "identity collisions" (when an aspect of your identity is exposed to a group of your friends that formerly didn't know, i.e. parents find out you're gay) can happen accidentally far too easily. In other words, it's not about maliciousness... and even if someone did want to spread information about you maliciously, it'd be a hell of a lot more challenging to do so over a mailing list (finding your boss', former co-workers', parents', siblings', friends', etc's email addresses vs tagging a photo or note).
tome 16y ago
The problem is that nothing he could have done could have stopped the picture being posted Even if he had no account it wouldn't have stopped people he knows posting and seeing pictures of him.

rit 16y ago

Ditto. I created an account because people kept sharing family photos, etc. with me. For the most part I've set my profile private. However, when my sister started scanning pictures of our childhood and posting them tagged as me, public for the world to see I started get uneasy. Nothing compromising or unusual in them but there's that part of me that wants a say as to when crap like that is posted online. It turns out of course I can "hide" photos tagged of me by other people - but still... Despite having my account private, other people can post pictures and tag them as having me in them. Frustrating.