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Why did you/would you uninstall ed or nano? It's not like they're taking up a lot of disk space. I mean, I don't ever use them either, but they're not getting i

by OskarS 10y ago

Why did you/would you uninstall ed or nano? It's not like they're taking up a lot of disk space. I mean, I don't ever use them either, but they're not getting in my way or anything.

kbp 10y ago
ed is used somewhat commonly by other programs too, so uninstalling it can break things.
- koenigdavidmj 10y ago
  If they do then they should have a package manager dependency, or that's a bug with the distribution.
  - kbp 10y ago
    If you get 100% of your software through the package manager, sure. If not, then manually uninstalling things that have been standard on Unix since version 1 isn't very smart.
  - kps 10y ago
    ed is posixically mandated, so it's a bug in the distribution anyway.
- lucb1e 10y ago
  I never noticed this, and like someone else said, then it should depend on it. I'll notice when something breaks and file a bug I guess :)
AimHere 10y ago
I could understand getting rid of nano. For some users, apt-get remove might be the easiest way they can think of for not defaulting to having nano called from other applications, as opposed to finding out about the proper way that Debian would like you to use. Most users would likely know about apt-get long before they ever chance across update-alternatives, (or whatever today's editor-default-selection-method-of-choice is, if it's not that anymore). I suspect that there are a range of user antipatterns due to either not knowing, or not having the time or inclination to lookup this month's correct method of doing some given task, and people will default to using old methods or silly workarounds.
lucb1e 10y ago
> Why did you/would you uninstall ed or nano? Ed? Maybe because I only ever typo into it, but as I said, I don't think I removed it anyway. Nano... to be honest, mostly to mess with anyone who'd want to use it. There is no need for it to be on my system, at least not for me, so it's perfectly logical to remove it. But an additional reason is that nano is a terrible editor that nobody should use anyway. Might as well open Geany or something with mouse support if they're not going to take advantage of vi keys (I'm talking about my own laptop with a screen anyway).

by OskarS 10y ago

Why did you/would you uninstall ed or nano? It's not like they're taking up a lot of disk space. I mean, I don't ever use them either, but they're not getting in my way or anything.

kbp 10y ago

ed is used somewhat commonly by other programs too, so uninstalling it can break things.

koenigdavidmj 10y ago
If they do then they should have a package manager dependency, or that's a bug with the distribution.
- kbp 10y ago
  If you get 100% of your software through the package manager, sure. If not, then manually uninstalling things that have been standard on Unix since version 1 isn't very smart.
- kps 10y ago
  ed is posixically mandated, so it's a bug in the distribution anyway.
lucb1e 10y ago
I never noticed this, and like someone else said, then it should depend on it. I'll notice when something breaks and file a bug I guess :)

AimHere 10y ago

I could understand getting rid of nano. For some users, apt-get remove might be the easiest way they can think of for not defaulting to having nano called from other applications, as opposed to finding out about the proper way that Debian would like you to use. Most users would likely know about apt-get long before they ever chance across update-alternatives, (or whatever today's editor-default-selection-method-of-choice is, if it's not that anymore). I suspect that there are a range of user antipatterns due to either not knowing, or not having the time or inclination to lookup this month's correct method of doing some given task, and people will default to using old methods or silly workarounds.

lucb1e 10y ago

> Why did you/would you uninstall ed or nano? Ed? Maybe because I only ever typo into it, but as I said, I don't think I removed it anyway. Nano... to be honest, mostly to mess with anyone who'd want to use it. There is no need for it to be on my system, at least not for me, so it's perfectly logical to remove it. But an additional reason is that nano is a terrible editor that nobody should use anyway. Might as well open Geany or something with mouse support if they're not going to take advantage of vi keys (I'm talking about my own laptop with a screen anyway).