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> Undoubtedly it would be if we were going to make it permanent, but when we said "for one week" we really meant for one week. If you had no intent to push thi

> Undoubtedly it would be if we were going to make it permanent, but when we said "for one week" we really meant for one week. If you had no intent to push this for longer, why even try it in the first place? What if I, and everyone else in this thread, is wrong and this turns out to be a magnificent idea and makes the site a better for everyone. Now since this is so amazing, why not make it perminent? The cynical in me is also asking, who gets to judge if this is a success or a failure? The community? The vocal portion of the community? The YC staff? You? I trust none of those groups with as important of a disition as this nor do I want a precident set on any social media platform I use that a specific topic can be completely banned from discussion.

DanBC 10y ago
How do you think this is going to affect you and how you comment on HN? Searching[0] comments for user:gravypod and stem word fragments like divers, sexi, raci, or discr return 0 hits. Searching for other hot button[1] words like abortion, jew, islam, muslim, gun, SJW, leftist, clinton, hillary, trump, right, women, Israel, iraq, vote etc etc return 0[2] hits. What political discussions are you having on HN that you won't still be able to have? Can you link to a comment you've made that you think you won't be able to make during this experiment? [0] It's possible that I'm using the Algolia search wrong, but I can return other comments by gravypod. [1] I'm not saying these are always bad comments! But if I'm looking for the political comments that dang is talking about these searches should return them. [2] Some hits, but nothing relevant, for vote and right.
- gravypod 10y ago
  Speaking against bad ideas isn't something I do only for my own benifit and I surely hope others feel this way. By the way, I use firearm to avoid negative connotation with gun.
dang 10y ago
> why even try it in the first place? For the reasons I gave: (1) taking a one-week breather from the kind of stories that erupt into flamewars seemed like a good way to remind us all of the values of this site (intellectual curiosity and civil discussion), and (2) we hoped we'd learn some things. As indeed we have.
- gravypod 10y ago
  > the kind of stories that erupt into flamewars Should we also ban discussion on Javascript frameworks? How about we ban all discussion on the founder of Soylent? Those threads tend to lay on the side of ideological bullying. > seemed like a good way to remind us all of the values of this site (intellectual curiosity and civil discussion) No sufficiently intelligent group would avoid the biological imperatives that set in motion the basis for political events or discussion. > we hoped we'd learn some things. As indeed we have Comeing from a company as YC this is very scary. I'm glad that it has become evident that this, at least currently, won't fly with a large portion of the community. In the future I see the "innocently" minded as being the playthings of you and your friends at YC.
- throwaway098345 10y ago
  What I and others are saying is that you can't be "intellectually curious" and dismiss large areas of conversation at the same time. It doesn't matter that it's "just a week" since it's not the experiment that we are concerned about, it's the basis of the experiment. You keep using words like "politics", "curiosity" and "thoughtful" in a manner that is biased to include only the things you define. I'm really trying to be both clear, concise and unconfrontational, yet I feel you are casually dismissing my and others opinions.

DanBC 10y ago

How do you think this is going to affect you and how you comment on HN? Searching[0] comments for user:gravypod and stem word fragments like divers, sexi, raci, or discr return 0 hits. Searching for other hot button[1] words like abortion, jew, islam, muslim, gun, SJW, leftist, clinton, hillary, trump, right, women, Israel, iraq, vote etc etc return 0[2] hits. What political discussions are you having on HN that you won't still be able to have? Can you link to a comment you've made that you think you won't be able to make during this experiment? [0] It's possible that I'm using the Algolia search wrong, but I can return other comments by gravypod. [1] I'm not saying these are always bad comments! But if I'm looking for the political comments that dang is talking about these searches should return them. [2] Some hits, but nothing relevant, for vote and right.

gravypod 10y ago
Speaking against bad ideas isn't something I do only for my own benifit and I surely hope others feel this way. By the way, I use firearm to avoid negative connotation with gun.

dang 10y ago

> why even try it in the first place? For the reasons I gave: (1) taking a one-week breather from the kind of stories that erupt into flamewars seemed like a good way to remind us all of the values of this site (intellectual curiosity and civil discussion), and (2) we hoped we'd learn some things. As indeed we have.

gravypod 10y ago
> the kind of stories that erupt into flamewars Should we also ban discussion on Javascript frameworks? How about we ban all discussion on the founder of Soylent? Those threads tend to lay on the side of ideological bullying. > seemed like a good way to remind us all of the values of this site (intellectual curiosity and civil discussion) No sufficiently intelligent group would avoid the biological imperatives that set in motion the basis for political events or discussion. > we hoped we'd learn some things. As indeed we have Comeing from a company as YC this is very scary. I'm glad that it has become evident that this, at least currently, won't fly with a large portion of the community. In the future I see the "innocently" minded as being the playthings of you and your friends at YC.
throwaway098345 10y ago
What I and others are saying is that you can't be "intellectually curious" and dismiss large areas of conversation at the same time. It doesn't matter that it's "just a week" since it's not the experiment that we are concerned about, it's the basis of the experiment. You keep using words like "politics", "curiosity" and "thoughtful" in a manner that is biased to include only the things you define. I'm really trying to be both clear, concise and unconfrontational, yet I feel you are casually dismissing my and others opinions.