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By bs, do you mean poor practices like the one in throttle control system for Toyota Camry (which NHTSA/NASA failed to detect)? http://www.embedded.com/electro

• argonaut 10y ago
  If accurate this would be evidence that the NHTSA isn't very stringent, which would actually make Hotz's self driving project seem even worse.
  • pjc50 10y ago
    The poor practices at Toyota are true (as in "established as fact in a court"). The NHTSA are indeed not very stringent as they don't really pro-actively audit systems, they rely on compliance documentation.
    • seren 10y ago
      I believe this is how every regulatory agency works over the world, they don't do any tests on your products, you only submit documentation related to your development and tests. They are basically looking for proof that you did required things such as specifications, tests, risks management... They are looking into your development process to estimate if your product is safe or not. But this is only indirect. Until you actually kill someone, and then, the same agency will send you its investigators and auditors.
      • pjc50 10y ago
        I thought FCC approval required lab testing by an approved lab, while for CE self-certification is acceptable? UL actually do testing, although they're not exactly a regulatory agency.
        • seren 10y ago
          A regulatory agency can ask for certifications, but it is possible that the certification authority is an independent entity (which probably need some sort of approval or audit from the regulatory agency).
• ttflee 10y ago
  FYI: Previous discussion on the Toyota issue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6636811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6636811