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Ah yes the cliche practice of making a loose blanket counter claim based on false assumptions to suggest that any critical view of China is inherently flawed du

Ah yes the cliche practice of making a loose blanket counter claim based on false assumptions to suggest that any critical view of China is inherently flawed due to the bias of being American. I wonder if you even live in North America, the difference is night and day. If I was in China and a company violates my IP and trademark, what punitive measures are enforced to ensure that my brand is not damaged as a result of knock-off products that ultimately turns out to be unsafe? What if you bought an iPhone only to discover it was a fake and customers are uploading burning batteries with the Apple logo on WeChat and Weibo? Clearly such practices are not allowed in North America or Europe and I can rest assured that there's very little chance of that continuing. There's no middle ground, it's A) did you use their trademark? B) If yes, you broke the law. C) Enforcement of the consequences. D) Scares everyone else to follow the law What possible context do you need here to justify trademark violation? Does China understand the value and role trademarks play? Without a clear authenticity, you can't control the quality, and the consumer and the producer lose. The economic loss as a result of not enforcing is great enough in the long term that the Western nations have long adhered to it. Being fair to China, it's still a growing economy and it's learning all these pieces. I feel like the future Chinese economy will be very similar to the US, and only then, will it truly shine. Unfortunately with a communist themed leadership where a central government is controlling everything, such maturity will not come in time and it will ultimately be it's undoing. The rule of law is interpreted as it is. Context should never be used as an excuse to say that the law doesn't work. Clearly, in the US or Canada, any trademark violation is enforced swiftly. Are you seriously trying to suggest that is the case in China?

stcredzero 10y ago
Ah yes the cliche practice of making a loose blanket counter claim based on false assumptions to suggest that any critical view of China is inherently flawed due to the bias of being American. Ah yes, the knee-jerk reaction to simple factual statements that reveal the biases of the commenter, through how they imagine the other comment was motivated. No, sorry, but the statement is factual. Both the US and China have laws that are selectively enforced. I wonder if you even live in North America, the difference is night and day. No one said anything about relative severity. That part is entirely in your own head. If you disagree, please provide a quote. Also ask yourself, why do you imagine such motivations, and react so strongly? I think that would be most instructive. I was born in and have lived in the US all my life. I have an Ivy league education and lots of life experience at all levels of the socioeconomic ladder. I think I have a good sense of this society's biases. (From both the political left and the right.) The rule of law is interpreted as it is. Context should never be used as an excuse to say that the law doesn't work. In the US, context is used to abrogate principles as fundamental as "innocent until proven guilty." That's simply fact. I never said the US was just as bad at protecting intellectual property. I merely stated that both the US and China bend the rule of law based on context. I didn't specify the contexts. You imagined contexts that you could get incensed about, apparently.
- brilliantcode 10y ago
  What evidence is there to support the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Please explain. Where do you live? What Ivy league did you attend? Please post relevant credentials. Why do you hate the US so much if you live here? It seems you rather live in China, why are you still here? If you called your self Apple Inc., how fast do you think Apple will fuck your shit up vs. if you did that in China? Which country has better enforced laws for businesses and the economy without violating human rights and freedom of speech?
  - 119731791 10y ago
    > Why do you hate the US so much if you live here? Why do you behave like an idiot?
  - stcredzero 10y ago
    What evidence is there to support the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Please explain. Why in heck would you ask that? Where did I ever say the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Congrats: another ham-fisted attempt to put words in my mouth. Where do you live? The Bay Area. What Ivy league did you attend? Dartmouth. Which country has better enforced laws for businesses and the economy without violating human rights and freedom of speech? I've always maintained the US is great in these regards. However, the US also violates human rights and while quite good, isn't perfect when it comes to freedom of speech. Please provide a quote where you had evidence I ever thought otherwise.
    - brilliantcode 10y ago
      You claimed "United States of America is an imperial power" by "US Imperialism". How can a former colony be now a colonizer? The pre-ww2 colonialism simply doesn't exist. It's not in America's interest to strip a country of their resources causing regional unstability. America's vision is to put everybody on their trading platform eventually in order to instill global prosperity and maintain their hegemony status. There's more benefits of being a US ally than joining China or Russia at this point and we've seen even countries like Vietnam, put away their differences and gravitate towards the US, their arch nemesis because the idea of Chinese regional hegemony scares them. So you graduated from a lower tier Ivy League school do you seriously think you will send your offspring to Beijing University while their elite are sending their offsprings to attend US Ivy League instead of BU? Obviously, China has not managed to attract the world's elite to move their for the Chinese dream, it has managed to chase away all of their wealthy class with it's draconian policies and human rights violations money can't buy. Please help me understand how US is equally violating of human rights and freedom of speech on the level China & Russia is getting away with. I'm genuinely curious to hear what an Ivy Leaguer has to say. Again my question, if you seriously believe that the US is equal in terms of quality of life to China, what is preventing you from chasing the Chinese dream instead of the American dream?
dilemma 10y ago
>I wonder if you even live in North America, the difference is night and day. Do you even live in China?

stcredzero 10y ago

Ah yes the cliche practice of making a loose blanket counter claim based on false assumptions to suggest that any critical view of China is inherently flawed due to the bias of being American. Ah yes, the knee-jerk reaction to simple factual statements that reveal the biases of the commenter, through how they imagine the other comment was motivated. No, sorry, but the statement is factual. Both the US and China have laws that are selectively enforced. I wonder if you even live in North America, the difference is night and day. No one said anything about relative severity. That part is entirely in your own head. If you disagree, please provide a quote. Also ask yourself, why do you imagine such motivations, and react so strongly? I think that would be most instructive. I was born in and have lived in the US all my life. I have an Ivy league education and lots of life experience at all levels of the socioeconomic ladder. I think I have a good sense of this society's biases. (From both the political left and the right.) The rule of law is interpreted as it is. Context should never be used as an excuse to say that the law doesn't work. In the US, context is used to abrogate principles as fundamental as "innocent until proven guilty." That's simply fact. I never said the US was just as bad at protecting intellectual property. I merely stated that both the US and China bend the rule of law based on context. I didn't specify the contexts. You imagined contexts that you could get incensed about, apparently.

brilliantcode 10y ago
What evidence is there to support the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Please explain. Where do you live? What Ivy league did you attend? Please post relevant credentials. Why do you hate the US so much if you live here? It seems you rather live in China, why are you still here? If you called your self Apple Inc., how fast do you think Apple will fuck your shit up vs. if you did that in China? Which country has better enforced laws for businesses and the economy without violating human rights and freedom of speech?
- 119731791 10y ago
  > Why do you hate the US so much if you live here? Why do you behave like an idiot?
- stcredzero 10y ago
  What evidence is there to support the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Please explain. Why in heck would you ask that? Where did I ever say the US is a pre-ww2 imperial power? Congrats: another ham-fisted attempt to put words in my mouth. Where do you live? The Bay Area. What Ivy league did you attend? Dartmouth. Which country has better enforced laws for businesses and the economy without violating human rights and freedom of speech? I've always maintained the US is great in these regards. However, the US also violates human rights and while quite good, isn't perfect when it comes to freedom of speech. Please provide a quote where you had evidence I ever thought otherwise.
  - brilliantcode 10y ago
    You claimed "United States of America is an imperial power" by "US Imperialism". How can a former colony be now a colonizer? The pre-ww2 colonialism simply doesn't exist. It's not in America's interest to strip a country of their resources causing regional unstability. America's vision is to put everybody on their trading platform eventually in order to instill global prosperity and maintain their hegemony status. There's more benefits of being a US ally than joining China or Russia at this point and we've seen even countries like Vietnam, put away their differences and gravitate towards the US, their arch nemesis because the idea of Chinese regional hegemony scares them. So you graduated from a lower tier Ivy League school do you seriously think you will send your offspring to Beijing University while their elite are sending their offsprings to attend US Ivy League instead of BU? Obviously, China has not managed to attract the world's elite to move their for the Chinese dream, it has managed to chase away all of their wealthy class with it's draconian policies and human rights violations money can't buy. Please help me understand how US is equally violating of human rights and freedom of speech on the level China & Russia is getting away with. I'm genuinely curious to hear what an Ivy Leaguer has to say. Again my question, if you seriously believe that the US is equal in terms of quality of life to China, what is preventing you from chasing the Chinese dream instead of the American dream?

dilemma 10y ago

>I wonder if you even live in North America, the difference is night and day. Do you even live in China?