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I am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. Another thing to consider here is: FB may be wallgardened, but what about the main

by tmptmp 10y ago

I am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. Another thing to consider here is: FB may be wallgardened, but what about the mainstream news organizations that are sold out to various parties? (e.g. Saudi Islamists have many huge investments/shares in many mainstream news organizations) Many mainstream news organizations are worse than FB when it comes to spread lies and propaganda in the name of news. We can already feel the influence of Saudi money in the US mainstream media. The mainstream US media is suppressing any criticism of Islam under the flimsy arguments like racism and islamophobia. This is already creating a suffocating atmosphere for true liberals. A factor to note here is even though the mainstream news organizations claim that they are liberal and left-leaning, they act like barbaric people when it comes to Islam. I do not see any criticism of Islam (e.g. horrendous treatment of women, homosexuals in Islam) in the mainstream media. Not even the discussion of problematic aspects of Islamic scriptures has any place in the mainstream media. Why should a common man trust the mainstream media news media? Then you see that it's the social media (FB, whatsapp, twitter, reddit etc) that gives the people what they think is needed to be reported/argued/discussed. e.g. FB (along with many other social media sites) has helped lot of people to learn the dangers posed by Islamism. How and why someone as lowly as Trump got elected? This may be very complex topic to analyze as there are many contributing factors but one factor played very important role in his win is the "outright dishonest approach by mainstream news media towards the issue of dangers posed by Islam". Sam Harris has put it quite aptly: Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump [1] I have learnt over the years to not trust many of the pseudo-liberal news organizations like NY times, Guardian etc. e.g. When Charlie Hebdo people were killed by the Islamists, most of these left-leaning pseudo-liberal news agencies were/are very much partial and acted like outright sold-out to Islamists (Saudi funders) when it comes to deal with news related to the vicious and barbaric aspects of Islam and various Islamic cultures. We must also understand that it's finally the reader's responsibility to filter all news, whether it's from FB or from other established news agencies/organizations. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCWf0tHy7M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCWf0tHy7M

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matt4077 10y ago
> am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. It doesn't matter what Facebook calls itself. It has power, and responsibility follows. > The mainstream US media is suppressing any criticism of Islam under the flimsy arguments like racism and islamophobia I believe there's plenty of it in the news. Syria has been a top story for three years running. Everyone knows how Saudi-Arabia treats women. Everybody knows who was responsible for Charlie Hebdo. Beyond that, it's not in the news because (a) it's not "new" and (b) there is nothing gained from a collective mob against islam. Bombing doesn't help. Being condemned by Americans also doesn't change a single mind in the mideast. Instead, you get the opposite. How many stories have we had about muslims being forced off airplanes because they spoke Arabic or "looked like a terrorist". Of course they're usually professors of philosophy who grew up in the UK and studied at Harvard.
- tmptmp 10y ago
  It seems you are missing the point. >>Beyond that, it's not in the news because (a) it's not "new" and (b) there is nothing gained from a collective mob against islam. Bombing doesn't help. There is no such thing as collective mob against Islam. In fact, there was not even mention of Islam until Trump came along, in the mainstream media. Earlier it was only "Islam is religion of peace" chanting in the mainstream media. Agreed that bombing doesn't help, but criticism of Islam is very much needed. Islam should ridiculed and shamed in public the same way as Christianity was/is. Islam should not have a special treatment in modern free society. Mainstream media fails in this respect. >>Being condemned by Americans also doesn't change a single mind in the mideast. How are you so sure? I can see many Muslims changing their attitude towards Islam due to whatever criticism they get to hear. In fact many are leaving Islam due to it. Another factor is why should it matter even if criticism of Islam doesn't change a single mind in mideast? Condemning and (at least) making people aware of the vicious, misogynist, homophobic, oppressive and cruel ideology is a must first step towards progress and is a duty of the liberal media. Islam is such an ideology, and our pseudo-liberals are cozy with it, which is dangerous for our democracy. >>Instead, you get the opposite. How many stories have we had about muslims being forced off airplanes because they spoke Arabic or "looked like a terrorist". Of course they're usually professors of philosophy who grew up in the UK and studied at Harvard. Of course, it's bad to treat Muslims that way, but we must understand that "the rational fear of the ideology of Islam" is responsible for this type of "irrational fear of ordinary Muslims". edit: typo

by tmptmp 10y ago

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matt4077 10y ago

> am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. It doesn't matter what Facebook calls itself. It has power, and responsibility follows. > The mainstream US media is suppressing any criticism of Islam under the flimsy arguments like racism and islamophobia I believe there's plenty of it in the news. Syria has been a top story for three years running. Everyone knows how Saudi-Arabia treats women. Everybody knows who was responsible for Charlie Hebdo. Beyond that, it's not in the news because (a) it's not "new" and (b) there is nothing gained from a collective mob against islam. Bombing doesn't help. Being condemned by Americans also doesn't change a single mind in the mideast. Instead, you get the opposite. How many stories have we had about muslims being forced off airplanes because they spoke Arabic or "looked like a terrorist". Of course they're usually professors of philosophy who grew up in the UK and studied at Harvard.

tmptmp 10y ago
It seems you are missing the point. >>Beyond that, it's not in the news because (a) it's not "new" and (b) there is nothing gained from a collective mob against islam. Bombing doesn't help. There is no such thing as collective mob against Islam. In fact, there was not even mention of Islam until Trump came along, in the mainstream media. Earlier it was only "Islam is religion of peace" chanting in the mainstream media. Agreed that bombing doesn't help, but criticism of Islam is very much needed. Islam should ridiculed and shamed in public the same way as Christianity was/is. Islam should not have a special treatment in modern free society. Mainstream media fails in this respect. >>Being condemned by Americans also doesn't change a single mind in the mideast. How are you so sure? I can see many Muslims changing their attitude towards Islam due to whatever criticism they get to hear. In fact many are leaving Islam due to it. Another factor is why should it matter even if criticism of Islam doesn't change a single mind in mideast? Condemning and (at least) making people aware of the vicious, misogynist, homophobic, oppressive and cruel ideology is a must first step towards progress and is a duty of the liberal media. Islam is such an ideology, and our pseudo-liberals are cozy with it, which is dangerous for our democracy. >>Instead, you get the opposite. How many stories have we had about muslims being forced off airplanes because they spoke Arabic or "looked like a terrorist". Of course they're usually professors of philosophy who grew up in the UK and studied at Harvard. Of course, it's bad to treat Muslims that way, but we must understand that "the rational fear of the ideology of Islam" is responsible for this type of "irrational fear of ordinary Muslims". edit: typo