"living more fully in the moment means" Does it help to list examples of the opposite, "tomorrow" or "manana" culture? Or aphorisms like never do tomorrow wha

"living more fully in the moment means" Does it help to list examples of the opposite, "tomorrow" or "manana" culture? Or aphorisms like never do tomorrow what you can do today? This brings up time preference which the original article author carefully danced to avoid discussing. Uneducated or lower class thought patterns seem to yield instantaneous maximal values of happiness X. If your outlook on life is to achieve the highest value X, even if for a very short amount of time, then you won't like Stoicism due to having an extremely high time preference. On the other hand if you walk a difficult path, seemingly an unnatural unevolved superficially unemotional undramatic path, which the stoic philosophers seem to think takes a lot of training and education and generally higher class attributes like intelligence and wisdom, the resulting extremely low time preference will produce some superficially really weird and non-traditional attitudes (what does this say about tradition?) that regardless of how "weird" they are, result in a maximal value when value X representing happiness is integrated over an entire lifetime. But your super low time preference is going to result in nearly living on a different planet from people with extremely high time preference, those groups have severe difficulty communicating with each other, often totally opposing concepts of value and whats right. Basically a different culture. Of course the stereotypes from people who don't really get it, start flowing and "naturally" its always the case that whatever is happy short term is the opposite long term or integrated over a long period, at least according to naturally grouchy people, for no apparent reason, or sometimes in defiance of reality, because it makes for dramatic philosophical texts. Of course reality has no obligation to make grouchy people consistent and happy, which is kind of funny in context. I guess I'm saying a crappy Stoic is a failure of a Stoic that wanted an excuse for being a grouchy "get off my lawn" guy, so spits out the grouchy answer off the cuff every time instead of the actual Stoic answer that might take some thought, unless its a really dumb question.