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I think you're really just saying "your belief system is totally wrong and mine is the right one." If you're Hindu (if I understood the parent), it was known a

by DougN7 10y ago

I think you're really just saying "your belief system is totally wrong and mine is the right one." If you're Hindu (if I understood the parent), it was known as much before as it was later known by Einstein. This is something that always intrigues me. People that believe in science (me included) don't see how much faith they too have in what they are taught. And that over time and with more understanding, what they were taught also ends up being false. For example, I was taught the ultimate truth by scientists that electrons orbited an atomic nucleus. I had blind faith. Turns out we were all wrong.

redial 10y ago
The mistake is believing. What is believed is irrelevant. Science should not be taken at face value any more than religion should. If you accept science just because you are told to believe in it, then it's not science.
- cLeEOGPw 10y ago
  Well, technically, all scientific knowledge is belief. There is no "knowledge" as some guaranteed to be correct entity. Everything is a belief in the brain. The difference between religious belief and scientific belief is confidence level. What we refer to as "scientific facts" are beliefs with very high confidence level due to countless testing in real world. It may not be apparent that laws of physics are a shared belief, because we are so certain of them being true, but there are plenty scientific results that are barely higher than religious beliefs. Especially medical, sociological studies, etc. And to continue on your point about religion - just because someone somewhere thought up of some idea, that translated to modern language and interpreted in modern knowledge framework sound similar to some of the obscure theories that are not yet falsified is nothing but unexpected. It would be hard to believe that from countless works of fiction that were produced during thousands of years around the world, none of them gad anything that resembles some strange theory. It literally shows nothing - neither that these unverified theories are right, nor that some ancient people had some superior cosmological knowledge we are just discovering right now.
  - redial 10y ago
    I agree, that is why I wrote mistake in cursive. But there is a difference between blind belief, like the one described on op's comment and, as you put it, scientific belief. Ignoring that difference is the mistake.
- DougN7 10y ago
  I don't think you're being intellectually honest. Do you believe black holes exist? What about the Big Bang? DNA? I'm almost certain you have not independently proven their existence. So do you believe or are you skeptical of such things?

by DougN7 10y ago

redial 10y ago

The mistake is believing. What is believed is irrelevant. Science should not be taken at face value any more than religion should. If you accept science just because you are told to believe in it, then it's not science.

cLeEOGPw 10y ago
Well, technically, all scientific knowledge is belief. There is no "knowledge" as some guaranteed to be correct entity. Everything is a belief in the brain. The difference between religious belief and scientific belief is confidence level. What we refer to as "scientific facts" are beliefs with very high confidence level due to countless testing in real world. It may not be apparent that laws of physics are a shared belief, because we are so certain of them being true, but there are plenty scientific results that are barely higher than religious beliefs. Especially medical, sociological studies, etc. And to continue on your point about religion - just because someone somewhere thought up of some idea, that translated to modern language and interpreted in modern knowledge framework sound similar to some of the obscure theories that are not yet falsified is nothing but unexpected. It would be hard to believe that from countless works of fiction that were produced during thousands of years around the world, none of them gad anything that resembles some strange theory. It literally shows nothing - neither that these unverified theories are right, nor that some ancient people had some superior cosmological knowledge we are just discovering right now.
- redial 10y ago
  I agree, that is why I wrote mistake in cursive. But there is a difference between blind belief, like the one described on op's comment and, as you put it, scientific belief. Ignoring that difference is the mistake.
DougN7 10y ago
I don't think you're being intellectually honest. Do you believe black holes exist? What about the Big Bang? DNA? I'm almost certain you have not independently proven their existence. So do you believe or are you skeptical of such things?