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That Page must have been really expensive. Fully responsive, seemingly tested on iPad and iPhone back when mobile browser penetration was much lower compared to

That Page must have been really expensive. Fully responsive, seemingly tested on iPad and iPhone back when mobile browser penetration was much lower compared to now. Incredible loading times, maybe they used a lot of asset preprocessing/compressing to make the page load that fast. One thing that bothers me is that there is no Google Analytics. Without good tracking they might not be able to optimise conversion rates of the landing page in the long run.

nothrabannosir 10y ago
Haha. But is it? I'm having a very hard time reading this on a phone. The text is too small and when I zoom in (unlike on desktop) it doesn't reflow. I don't understand this "no css is best css" trope.. this is unusable on mobile. (Explicit note of the obvious which should go without saying: not a criticism of the page. Just about this HN meme of revering css-less pages. )
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- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  At least you get to zoom in, which is not true with most of the mobile websites these days.
  - erinyong 10y ago
    I agree!
- leeoniya 10y ago
  You can add an html meta tag that would solve the mobile issues you're describing, without CSS. <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
  - LeoPanthera 10y ago
    If you set initial-scale=1, isn't width=device-width redundant?
    - leeoniya 10y ago
      it's probably there cause some early implementation somewhere tried to be "smart" if you weren't explicit. too lazy to give you definitive answer, but: [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-device-adapt-1/ https://www.w3.org/TR/css-device-adapt-1/ [2] https://benfrain.com/understanding-the-viewport-meta-tag-and-css-viewport/ https://benfrain.com/understanding-the-viewport-meta-tag-and...
nxc18 10y ago
Its not a single page application though. That really hurts usability. As a user I want to load the entire web application up front, then deal with JavaScript loading nonsense constantly. Why should big powerful servers do the work when I have my battery constrained smartphone/laptop to do the heavy lifting?
- Alex3917 10y ago
  Angular is basically just IKEA for web pages.
bshimmin 10y ago
Amazing what you could achieve with Adobe PageMill!
leeoniya 10y ago
you can make the site look 2017 and still work at incredible 2005 speeds by just sprinkling some CSS3
brudgers 10y ago
People forget that web pages require maintenance. This is a great example of the benefits that come from keeping plenty of spare HTML on hand. Though I hate think about the cost of to taxpayers of a <p> in 1997...and the </p> tags? Well that's just plain over engineering. Oh wait, it's Nasa.
jordache 10y ago
you are wrong. They've skipped out on parallax scrolling. So obviously there was a finite budget.

nothrabannosir 10y ago

Haha. But is it? I'm having a very hard time reading this on a phone. The text is too small and when I zoom in (unlike on desktop) it doesn't reflow. I don't understand this "no css is best css" trope.. this is unusable on mobile. (Explicit note of the obvious which should go without saying: not a criticism of the page. Just about this HN meme of revering css-less pages. )

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TeMPOraL 10y ago
At least you get to zoom in, which is not true with most of the mobile websites these days.
- erinyong 10y ago
  I agree!
leeoniya 10y ago
You can add an html meta tag that would solve the mobile issues you're describing, without CSS. <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
- LeoPanthera 10y ago
  If you set initial-scale=1, isn't width=device-width redundant?
  - leeoniya 10y ago
    it's probably there cause some early implementation somewhere tried to be "smart" if you weren't explicit. too lazy to give you definitive answer, but: [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-device-adapt-1/ https://www.w3.org/TR/css-device-adapt-1/ [2] https://benfrain.com/understanding-the-viewport-meta-tag-and-css-viewport/ https://benfrain.com/understanding-the-viewport-meta-tag-and...

nxc18 10y ago

Its not a single page application though. That really hurts usability. As a user I want to load the entire web application up front, then deal with JavaScript loading nonsense constantly. Why should big powerful servers do the work when I have my battery constrained smartphone/laptop to do the heavy lifting?

Alex3917 10y ago
Angular is basically just IKEA for web pages.

bshimmin 10y ago

Amazing what you could achieve with Adobe PageMill!

leeoniya 10y ago

you can make the site look 2017 and still work at incredible 2005 speeds by just sprinkling some CSS3

brudgers 10y ago

People forget that web pages require maintenance. This is a great example of the benefits that come from keeping plenty of spare HTML on hand. Though I hate think about the cost of to taxpayers of a <p> in 1997...and the </p> tags? Well that's just plain over engineering. Oh wait, it's Nasa.

jordache 10y ago

you are wrong. They've skipped out on parallax scrolling. So obviously there was a finite budget.