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I'm no lawyer but this does not say the FBI can hack anyone anywhere in the world. It explicit says a judge may authorize the search warrant if, among other thi

I'm no lawyer but this does not say the FBI can hack anyone anywhere in the world. It explicit says a judge may authorize the search warrant if, among other things (mostly related to where the target is within the US): (B) the premises—no matter who owns them—of a United States diplomatic or consular mission in a foreign state, including any appurtenant building, part of a building, or land used for the mission's purposes; or (C) a residence and any appurtenant land owned or leased by the United States and used by United States personnel assigned to a United States diplomatic or consular mission in a foreign state. So it says clearly "owned, leased, used by... US diplomatic or consular mission in a foreign state". Not that any laws have prevented the FBI/NSA from doing any of this already. Apparently, citizens of other countries should not be worried (with this particular law). Could anyone with more knowledge in this area double check this?

deckar01 10y ago
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/rule-41-little-known-committee-proposes-grant-new-hacking-powers-government https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/rule-41-little-known-c...
- sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
  No chance the EFF is pushing one specific extremist agenda. I'm sure they are doing their best to give a neutral unbiased description. EDIT: For the downvoters, its like trusting peta for a neutral stance on animal welfare on a farm.
  - nickodell 10y ago
    The EFF is not correctly describing the Rule 41 change. The amendment gives magistrate judges the same power that Article 3 judges already have. Nor is the EFF's position reasonable - suppose you want to search a computer in an unknown jurisdiction, where the location of the computer has been obscured by Tor. What's the alternative to allowing magistrate judges to issue warrants outside of their jurisdictions? Requiring warrants for every jurisdiction that the target computer might be within?
benevol 10y ago
"The FBI ended up hacking some 8,700 computers in 120 countries." From: https://motherboard.vice.com/read/us-judges-can-now-sign-global-hacking-warrants https://motherboard.vice.com/read/us-judges-can-now-sign-glo...
- sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
  Because Vice's motherboard is a pillar of journalistic integrity.
  - santoriv 10y ago
    Hmmmm.. 4 pro surveillance comments in this thread so far from a user account created 13 minutes ago... Astroturf much?
    - sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
      Totally. I'm a secret FBI lizard man of the Illuminati. Busted! Maybe I'm just finally fed up with all this garbage extremist crap being posted and upvoted everywhere. It's getting really really really old.
      - santoriv 10y ago
        Well I suppose that extremism is in the eye of the beholder. The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." I would argue that the ability of the US government to have unfettered access to all of your electronic devices - even in cases where there is no indication that you have perpetrated any crime - would constitute an "unreasonable search". To you that may be an extremist view. To me that's a reasonable interpretation of the English language.
      - dang 10y ago

deckar01 10y ago

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/rule-41-little-known-committee-proposes-grant-new-hacking-powers-government https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/rule-41-little-known-c...

sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
No chance the EFF is pushing one specific extremist agenda. I'm sure they are doing their best to give a neutral unbiased description. EDIT: For the downvoters, its like trusting peta for a neutral stance on animal welfare on a farm.
- nickodell 10y ago
  The EFF is not correctly describing the Rule 41 change. The amendment gives magistrate judges the same power that Article 3 judges already have. Nor is the EFF's position reasonable - suppose you want to search a computer in an unknown jurisdiction, where the location of the computer has been obscured by Tor. What's the alternative to allowing magistrate judges to issue warrants outside of their jurisdictions? Requiring warrants for every jurisdiction that the target computer might be within?

benevol 10y ago

"The FBI ended up hacking some 8,700 computers in 120 countries." From: https://motherboard.vice.com/read/us-judges-can-now-sign-global-hacking-warrants https://motherboard.vice.com/read/us-judges-can-now-sign-glo...

sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
Because Vice's motherboard is a pillar of journalistic integrity.
- santoriv 10y ago
  Hmmmm.. 4 pro surveillance comments in this thread so far from a user account created 13 minutes ago... Astroturf much?
  - sioadfjafsdaf 10y ago
    Totally. I'm a secret FBI lizard man of the Illuminati. Busted! Maybe I'm just finally fed up with all this garbage extremist crap being posted and upvoted everywhere. It's getting really really really old.
    - santoriv 10y ago
      Well I suppose that extremism is in the eye of the beholder. The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." I would argue that the ability of the US government to have unfettered access to all of your electronic devices - even in cases where there is no indication that you have perpetrated any crime - would constitute an "unreasonable search". To you that may be an extremist view. To me that's a reasonable interpretation of the English language.
    - dang 10y ago