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I hope they will soon figure out how to lab grow meat.

marricks 10y ago
I do too, but at the same time, meat isn't particularly healthy for you anyways?[1] At least red meat is awful for you. Plenty of alternatives exist* at the moment though they're not always cheap. We have the opportunity for a two-for-one here by replacing more harmful products with plant based alternatives. Things like the impossible burger people already rave about. It could be more of a marketing challenge, just making faux meats seem sexy and attractive to people. Luckily it's a growing industry so we'll see more investments in them, along with faux meats. * if you live near a somewhat alternative food store like Whole Foods, Trader Joes, etc. Kind of a big if. [1] http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-me...
- codecamper 10y ago
  taco bell bean burrito! lived on that for 3 years through university. :)
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  >>I do too, but at the same time, meat isn't particularly healthy for you anyways? At least red meat is awful for you. Please stop making stuff up.
  - marricks 10y ago
    Asking for a source is good! Claiming something is made up without any evidence to support it, less so. I honestly figured it was so well known of a fact it didn't need support. Below is one, though. http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-me...
    - botexpert 10y ago
      I'm vegan but I'd never make stuff up. Notion of food being unhealthy or healthy is borderline orthorexic. Saying that red meat is unhealthy is vague. There's no concept in science that categorizes food as either healthy or unhealthy. There has been no strong evidence that diets containing meat are unhealthy. As much as I'd like everyone to severely decrease their meat consumption and eventually stop using all animal products I won't scare them with shaky facts. Would USA population benefit from eating less food, definitely. Are epidemiological studies strong enough evidence for diet related health benefits? No. HN is full of orthorexic hivemind demonizing ingredients like sugar, cholesterol, fat, meat or whatever. There are plenty of valid, rational reasons to stop eating meat. If one is in good health then health is not a valid reason.
      - marricks 10y ago
        I don't either, perhaps I spoke too broadly but red meat is generally agreed to be bad for someone, especially in the quantities normally eaten in the western world. I really should have specified "most American's can improve their health by eating less red meat." We shouldn't generally speak in absolutes, I agree. But what I was contending was simple, staying away from lab and normal animal flesh would be good in general for the US population. That's not to say you can't eat red meat and be healthy if you do it in moderation. There's countless ways to achieve a healthy diet with h vegan and non vegan options.
    - rokosbasilisk 10y ago
      People have good reason to doubt food science "experts", the current obesity epidemic is thought to be from bad recommendations of the food pyramid. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/29/934261/- http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/29/934261/- People are absolutely right to doubt the legitmacy of nutrition research in 2016, and the replication crisis and obesity crisis, and failure of experts just adds fuel to the fire.
  - tluyben2 10y ago
    That is the kind of reaction I meant in another comment in this thread...

I do too, but at the same time, meat isn't particularly healthy for you anyways?[1] At least red meat is awful for you. Plenty of alternatives exist* at the moment though they're not always cheap. We have the opportunity for a two-for-one here by replacing more harmful products with plant based alternatives. Things like the impossible burger people already rave about. It could be more of a marketing challenge, just making faux meats seem sexy and attractive to people. Luckily it's a growing industry so we'll see more investments in them, along with faux meats. * if you live near a somewhat alternative food store like Whole Foods, Trader Joes, etc. Kind of a big if. [1] http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-me...

codecamper 10y ago
taco bell bean burrito! lived on that for 3 years through university. :)
enraged_camel 10y ago
>>I do too, but at the same time, meat isn't particularly healthy for you anyways? At least red meat is awful for you. Please stop making stuff up.
- marricks 10y ago
  Asking for a source is good! Claiming something is made up without any evidence to support it, less so. I honestly figured it was so well known of a fact it didn't need support. Below is one, though. http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-me...
  - botexpert 10y ago
    I'm vegan but I'd never make stuff up. Notion of food being unhealthy or healthy is borderline orthorexic. Saying that red meat is unhealthy is vague. There's no concept in science that categorizes food as either healthy or unhealthy. There has been no strong evidence that diets containing meat are unhealthy. As much as I'd like everyone to severely decrease their meat consumption and eventually stop using all animal products I won't scare them with shaky facts. Would USA population benefit from eating less food, definitely. Are epidemiological studies strong enough evidence for diet related health benefits? No. HN is full of orthorexic hivemind demonizing ingredients like sugar, cholesterol, fat, meat or whatever. There are plenty of valid, rational reasons to stop eating meat. If one is in good health then health is not a valid reason.
    - marricks 10y ago
      I don't either, perhaps I spoke too broadly but red meat is generally agreed to be bad for someone, especially in the quantities normally eaten in the western world. I really should have specified "most American's can improve their health by eating less red meat." We shouldn't generally speak in absolutes, I agree. But what I was contending was simple, staying away from lab and normal animal flesh would be good in general for the US population. That's not to say you can't eat red meat and be healthy if you do it in moderation. There's countless ways to achieve a healthy diet with h vegan and non vegan options.
  - rokosbasilisk 10y ago
    People have good reason to doubt food science "experts", the current obesity epidemic is thought to be from bad recommendations of the food pyramid. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/29/934261/- http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/29/934261/- People are absolutely right to doubt the legitmacy of nutrition research in 2016, and the replication crisis and obesity crisis, and failure of experts just adds fuel to the fire.
- tluyben2 10y ago
  That is the kind of reaction I meant in another comment in this thread...