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> if you are using emacs lisp to do raytracing, then wow. There's a great old saying: Emacs is a great operating system, it just needs a good text editor.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
Indeed, Emacs is a great example of how a productivity-oriented OS should look like - giving you a very powerful and efficient set of user-interface operations, and then letting you use them everywhere, no matter the task you're doing. Pretty much the exact opposite of a normal OS - hence many of us in Emacs world do treat our editor as an OS, and prefer to do everything within it.
- gravypod 10y ago
  If you are one of those die-hard emacs fans I'd love to hear how you would feel about using EXWM. It's an emacs window manager for X. Screenshots found here: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki/Screenshots https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki/Screenshots
  - kruhft 10y ago
    +1 EXWM for a tiling window manager. Very nice setup.
  - wcummings 10y ago
    Unnecessary, you can split windows in Emacs, view PDFs in Emacs, run a shell in Emacs, browse directories in Emacs. The only thing you can't do in those screenshots is run Firefox, and I'm happy to alt-tab between my fullscreen Emacs session and my fullscreen FF session
progman 10y ago
Emacs's editor is good. The real problem is the awful default configuration. If you want convenient Emacs then you should define your own favorite keystrokes (with global-set-key) and download useful tools like speedbar (via MELPA) for convenient file browsing, etc. I know Emacs for 25+ years, I saw many editors come and go. Today I am still using Emacs because its ability to be customized, and the simplicity of the plugin system is still unmatched.
- hellofunk 10y ago
  Are you talking about this: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SpeedBar https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SpeedBar Is it not already in emacs without need for melpa?

TeMPOraL 10y ago

Indeed, Emacs is a great example of how a productivity-oriented OS should look like - giving you a very powerful and efficient set of user-interface operations, and then letting you use them everywhere, no matter the task you're doing. Pretty much the exact opposite of a normal OS - hence many of us in Emacs world do treat our editor as an OS, and prefer to do everything within it.

gravypod 10y ago
If you are one of those die-hard emacs fans I'd love to hear how you would feel about using EXWM. It's an emacs window manager for X. Screenshots found here: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki/Screenshots https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki/Screenshots
- kruhft 10y ago
  +1 EXWM for a tiling window manager. Very nice setup.
- wcummings 10y ago
  Unnecessary, you can split windows in Emacs, view PDFs in Emacs, run a shell in Emacs, browse directories in Emacs. The only thing you can't do in those screenshots is run Firefox, and I'm happy to alt-tab between my fullscreen Emacs session and my fullscreen FF session

progman 10y ago

Emacs's editor is good. The real problem is the awful default configuration. If you want convenient Emacs then you should define your own favorite keystrokes (with global-set-key) and download useful tools like speedbar (via MELPA) for convenient file browsing, etc. I know Emacs for 25+ years, I saw many editors come and go. Today I am still using Emacs because its ability to be customized, and the simplicity of the plugin system is still unmatched.

hellofunk 10y ago
Are you talking about this: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SpeedBar https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SpeedBar Is it not already in emacs without need for melpa?