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The same can be said of all technology whether that's HTML or any runtime or platform ever in existence. The fact that it existed before these things (touch, ac

The same can be said of all technology whether that's HTML or any runtime or platform ever in existence. The fact that it existed before these things (touch, accelerometers, GPS) means that obviously it wasn't designed for these things. But technology advances. You wouldn't say that HTML 5 shouldn't be used for drawing capabilities because HTML 4 wasn't created for drawing. That's just silly. The current beta of Flash player supports touch events (including gestures), accelerometer input, and GPS.

thought_alarm 16y ago
The iPhone was announced over 3 years ago. Now it's 2010 and this Flash player is only in beta. It demonstrates how Adobe has struggled to deliver their software for these devices, likely due to the reasons these former employees suggest in the article. In the meantime, Apple has delivered an excellent mobile video and HTML5 implementation, and they did it using open standards and open source.
- dougmccune 16y ago
  Well ok then... I wasn't saying that they did it fast or that it's released or anything of the sort. I was simply saying that the argument that a technology was first developed before the current needs of the technology is a completely bullshit argument.
  - shawndumas 16y ago
    The point is that HTML5 was designed for touch, accelerometers and GPS where as Flash was not.
    - dougmccune 16y ago
      and my point was that HTML _5_ is being designed for touch, not any prior version of HTML. Just like Flash Player _10.1_ is being designed for touch, not any prior version of Flash. Saying Flash wasn't originally designed for touch, etc. is the same as saying HTML wasn't originally designed for touch, etc.
      - shawndumas 16y ago
        but all flash apps, up till 10.1 where not. where as all HTML 5 apps are. listen, I get what you are saying: the past is the past, but we want to move on, now, and adobe seems to be moving glacially.
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    - baguasquirrel 16y ago
      And if your proprietary walled garden is moving at the same speed as the web standards body (CMON!), you are #$@*ed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(HTML5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(H...

thought_alarm 16y ago

The iPhone was announced over 3 years ago. Now it's 2010 and this Flash player is only in beta. It demonstrates how Adobe has struggled to deliver their software for these devices, likely due to the reasons these former employees suggest in the article. In the meantime, Apple has delivered an excellent mobile video and HTML5 implementation, and they did it using open standards and open source.

dougmccune 16y ago
Well ok then... I wasn't saying that they did it fast or that it's released or anything of the sort. I was simply saying that the argument that a technology was first developed before the current needs of the technology is a completely bullshit argument.
- shawndumas 16y ago
  The point is that HTML5 was designed for touch, accelerometers and GPS where as Flash was not.
  - dougmccune 16y ago
    and my point was that HTML _5_ is being designed for touch, not any prior version of HTML. Just like Flash Player _10.1_ is being designed for touch, not any prior version of Flash. Saying Flash wasn't originally designed for touch, etc. is the same as saying HTML wasn't originally designed for touch, etc.
    - shawndumas 16y ago
      but all flash apps, up till 10.1 where not. where as all HTML 5 apps are. listen, I get what you are saying: the past is the past, but we want to move on, now, and adobe seems to be moving glacially.
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  - baguasquirrel 16y ago
    And if your proprietary walled garden is moving at the same speed as the web standards body (CMON!), you are #$@*ed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(HTML5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(H...