> What’s Wrong with Increment/Decrement? This sort of misses the point there. What eevee was saying was that "Usually you use ++ to mean +=1". It is equivalent

> What’s Wrong with Increment/Decrement? This sort of misses the point there. What eevee was saying was that "Usually you use ++ to mean +=1". It is equivalent to +=1 in those cases. Eevee then goes on to say "The only difference is that people can do stupid unreadable tricks with ++.". She is talking about postfix/prefix there. She never said that ++ and += are exactly the same, she's saying that they're mostly the same, except for some cases which often read to more unreadable code. Using i++ or ++i as an expression within a larger expression often leads to unreadable code. The author here then goes on to talk of off by one errors, but ++-as-expression is what causes a lot of off by one errors. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13089663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13089663 explains this a bit too. --- The other two points also miss the point a bit. The post is not "why C is bad". The post is "Let's stop copying C". There are good reasons behind C having many of these features. These reasons do not necessarily port to other languages; yet they copy the feature.