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Interesting to note that Phreaking is still very much alive and kicking. Most of the hackers I know gave up on Phreaking once hacking became popular in their c

Interesting to note that Phreaking is still very much alive and kicking. Most of the hackers I know gave up on Phreaking once hacking became popular in their circles. To me, there will always be something more fascinating about the telephone infrastructure.

razakel 10y ago
>Interesting to note that Phreaking is still very much alive and kicking. Any sites you'd suggest?
- at-fates-hands 10y ago
  http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/ http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/ https://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/telecom/index.html https://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/telecom/index.html https://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/42-phreaking_0.html https://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/42-phreaking_0.html http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/phreak-basics-0161011/ http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/phreak-basics-016101... http://web.textfiles.com/phreak/phreaking.txt http://web.textfiles.com/phreak/phreaking.txt http://www.aboutphone.info/lib/phreak/boxes-2.html http://www.aboutphone.info/lib/phreak/boxes-2.html http://www.textfiles.com/phreak/BOXES/ http://www.textfiles.com/phreak/BOXES/ That should give you a good head start. . .
  - razakel 10y ago
    >That should give you a good head start. . . I read all this as a kid... :)
- lozf 10y ago
  Phil Lapsley's book "Exploding The Phone" [0] gives a well written overview for anyone interested. [0] http://explodingthephone.com/ http://explodingthephone.com/ (AudioBook also available)
mediaserf 10y ago
This was a fun read for me for much of the same reason. Alliance teleconferencing 0-700-456-1000 may not be there anymore, but there are still some old numbers that work. Here's a loop: 513-241-1018 - you gotta find the other end :)
droopybuns 10y ago
I think of phreaking as a byproduct of an era where signal controls were integrated in bearer traffic. It feels magical to know that the same transport that delivers the sound of your voice was susceptible to tampering and rerouting by other sounds. This is something other than phreaking, imo. It's straight forward service fraud and hacking. Bearer and Signal have been divorced. The attacker has to get privileged access to a network that is generally not accessible to the public. Phreaking was neat because literally anyone could do it if they knew about the methods. Knowing the methods used here isn't enough. You need to get on the trusted SS7 network and have a roaming/interconnect agreement to start doing really interesting things.
7Z7 10y ago
Does it count as phreaking if you own the infrastructure?
- hulahoof 10y ago
  Does it count as hacking if you own the network? I think it still does, the outcome is different but the methods are similar.

razakel 10y ago

>Interesting to note that Phreaking is still very much alive and kicking. Any sites you'd suggest?

at-fates-hands 10y ago
http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/ http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/ https://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/telecom/index.html https://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/telecom/index.html https://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/42-phreaking_0.html https://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/42-phreaking_0.html http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/phreak-basics-0161011/ http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/phreak-basics-016101... http://web.textfiles.com/phreak/phreaking.txt http://web.textfiles.com/phreak/phreaking.txt http://www.aboutphone.info/lib/phreak/boxes-2.html http://www.aboutphone.info/lib/phreak/boxes-2.html http://www.textfiles.com/phreak/BOXES/ http://www.textfiles.com/phreak/BOXES/ That should give you a good head start. . .
- razakel 10y ago
  >That should give you a good head start. . . I read all this as a kid... :)
lozf 10y ago
Phil Lapsley's book "Exploding The Phone" [0] gives a well written overview for anyone interested. [0] http://explodingthephone.com/ http://explodingthephone.com/ (AudioBook also available)

mediaserf 10y ago

This was a fun read for me for much of the same reason. Alliance teleconferencing 0-700-456-1000 may not be there anymore, but there are still some old numbers that work. Here's a loop: 513-241-1018 - you gotta find the other end :)

droopybuns 10y ago

I think of phreaking as a byproduct of an era where signal controls were integrated in bearer traffic. It feels magical to know that the same transport that delivers the sound of your voice was susceptible to tampering and rerouting by other sounds. This is something other than phreaking, imo. It's straight forward service fraud and hacking. Bearer and Signal have been divorced. The attacker has to get privileged access to a network that is generally not accessible to the public. Phreaking was neat because literally anyone could do it if they knew about the methods. Knowing the methods used here isn't enough. You need to get on the trusted SS7 network and have a roaming/interconnect agreement to start doing really interesting things.

7Z7 10y ago

Does it count as phreaking if you own the infrastructure?

hulahoof 10y ago
Does it count as hacking if you own the network? I think it still does, the outcome is different but the methods are similar.