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Yes, a violation of the terms of service (TOS) is a crime now in South Korea, but it's worse, if a right is not provided in writing that it's explicitly reserve

Yes, a violation of the terms of service (TOS) is a crime now in South Korea, but it's worse, if a right is not provided in writing that it's explicitly reserved; meaning if you do anything that's not forbidden, but also not explicitly approved, you are a criminal.

nkrisc 10y ago
Is that what the law says, any violation of TOS? I can't read Korean so I couldn't read the linked amendment and the article didn't go into much detail.
- saycheese 10y ago
  >> "Based on this law, manufacturing and distributing programs that are not allowed by the game company and its Terms of Service is now directly illegal." Very possible that's not what the law says, but it is what's stated in the linked news article.
- deleted 10y ago
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mtgx 10y ago
So basically corporations are directly making laws in South Korea now, which really seems to be the final goal of a process that's already happening in other countries, including the US. Perhaps we're really going to get those "corporate governments" we see in some dystopian sci-fi books and shows/movies.
- saycheese 10y ago
  Maybe, though it's also more commonly lazy governance mixed with inactive citizens in a democracy; South Korea is a democracy.
  - wangchow 10y ago
    Well there's massive protests going on to oust their president. http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/massive-protests-against-south-koreas-pr?articleId=USRTSU04U http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/massive-protests-against...
    - saycheese 10y ago
      Protesting is a lazy expression of self interest, done in massive, etc. Taking the time to independently form and express a legally enforceable position takes substantial and ongoing effort. Generally speaking if you were to take a group of protesters and separate them and have them express the their concerns, related reasoning, their desired change, and expected outcomes... you would get non-sense.
      - wangchow 10y ago
        You would not get nonsense, you would get emotional charge. Emotions can easily overpower thought-process. Because of this, emotional charge is the de facto force of social change.
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- hlandau 10y ago
  Apparently Samsung is 24% of South Korea's GDP. That can't be healthy.
  - Benjamin_Dobell 10y ago
    I guess that'd make LG responsible for around another 12%. Definitely doesn't seem healthy.
- wav-part 10y ago
  Oh please. Corporations are blameless here. Its in Govt nature to try to control every part of life and most of the time, succeed.
- babyrainbow 10y ago
  >Perhaps we're really going to get those "corporate governments" we see in some dystopian sci-fi books and shows/movies. Ever seen a movie called "The Network". It is quite old, 1976. You should see it. You should at least see this scene, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4
eriknstr 10y ago
Then it is time for the people of south korea to throw away proprietary software and use only open source software licensed under ISC and the likes. >Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. > >THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.

nkrisc 10y ago

Is that what the law says, any violation of TOS? I can't read Korean so I couldn't read the linked amendment and the article didn't go into much detail.

saycheese 10y ago
>> "Based on this law, manufacturing and distributing programs that are not allowed by the game company and its Terms of Service is now directly illegal." Very possible that's not what the law says, but it is what's stated in the linked news article.
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mtgx 10y ago

So basically corporations are directly making laws in South Korea now, which really seems to be the final goal of a process that's already happening in other countries, including the US. Perhaps we're really going to get those "corporate governments" we see in some dystopian sci-fi books and shows/movies.

saycheese 10y ago
Maybe, though it's also more commonly lazy governance mixed with inactive citizens in a democracy; South Korea is a democracy.
- wangchow 10y ago
  Well there's massive protests going on to oust their president. http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/massive-protests-against-south-koreas-pr?articleId=USRTSU04U http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/massive-protests-against...
  - saycheese 10y ago
    Protesting is a lazy expression of self interest, done in massive, etc. Taking the time to independently form and express a legally enforceable position takes substantial and ongoing effort. Generally speaking if you were to take a group of protesters and separate them and have them express the their concerns, related reasoning, their desired change, and expected outcomes... you would get non-sense.
    - wangchow 10y ago
      You would not get nonsense, you would get emotional charge. Emotions can easily overpower thought-process. Because of this, emotional charge is the de facto force of social change.
  - deleted 10y ago
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hlandau 10y ago
Apparently Samsung is 24% of South Korea's GDP. That can't be healthy.
- Benjamin_Dobell 10y ago
  I guess that'd make LG responsible for around another 12%. Definitely doesn't seem healthy.
wav-part 10y ago
Oh please. Corporations are blameless here. Its in Govt nature to try to control every part of life and most of the time, succeed.
babyrainbow 10y ago
>Perhaps we're really going to get those "corporate governments" we see in some dystopian sci-fi books and shows/movies. Ever seen a movie called "The Network". It is quite old, 1976. You should see it. You should at least see this scene, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4

eriknstr 10y ago

Then it is time for the people of south korea to throw away proprietary software and use only open source software licensed under ISC and the likes. >Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. > >THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.