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Both articles from 2014. Uber 2014 and Uber 2016 are different companies, probably 5x the number of employees and has matured substantially especially with empl

Both articles from 2014. Uber 2014 and Uber 2016 are different companies, probably 5x the number of employees and has matured substantially especially with employee conduct expectations. I would be shocked and angry if something like that happened today.

zachrose 10y ago
That's not how trust works.
abduhl 10y ago
Have personnel changes happened at the highest levels of the organization since 2014? The abuse discussed in the links came down from the top ranks of Uber. When did you join Uber? If it was not prior to 2014, what makes you an expert on how the company had mature and, if prior to 2014, why were you not shocked and angry when these events occurred in 2014?
iamdave 10y ago
Uber 2014 and Uber 2016 are different companies What are you basing this on and point me to supporting evidence of this, failing that I need something more convincing than increased headcount as a motivator to give Uber my trust as a consumer again.
yladiz 10y ago
Really? A simple search found me an article from 2016 where a judge lambasted Uber's counsel about hiring a company who did unlicensed background investigation against someone who filed a lawsuit against Kalanick[1]. I've heard from you and multiple employees that you would be "shocked or angry" or believe "Uber is a good company and wouldn't have joined otherwise." But I find this hard to believe because if that was the case, then Uber would have lost most of their engineers in the beginning, pre-2014, when they were doing really shady stuff. Maybe you and your colleagues that use Hacker News that publicly commented on this thread would quit if something unethical happened, but words are empty while actions are not and I haven't heard of a case where a large group of Uber engineers or employees are protesting about their company's unethical nature. Color me unconvinced when I hear your words. http://fortune.com/2016/07/25/judge-uber-background-check-lawsuit-criminal/ http://fortune.com/2016/07/25/judge-uber-background-check-la...
chris_wot 10y ago
Weak, so weak. This is how the company was founded, and they want us to trust them with their data? Hell no.

zachrose 10y ago

That's not how trust works.

abduhl 10y ago

Have personnel changes happened at the highest levels of the organization since 2014? The abuse discussed in the links came down from the top ranks of Uber. When did you join Uber? If it was not prior to 2014, what makes you an expert on how the company had mature and, if prior to 2014, why were you not shocked and angry when these events occurred in 2014?

iamdave 10y ago

Uber 2014 and Uber 2016 are different companies What are you basing this on and point me to supporting evidence of this, failing that I need something more convincing than increased headcount as a motivator to give Uber my trust as a consumer again.

yladiz 10y ago

Really? A simple search found me an article from 2016 where a judge lambasted Uber's counsel about hiring a company who did unlicensed background investigation against someone who filed a lawsuit against Kalanick[1]. I've heard from you and multiple employees that you would be "shocked or angry" or believe "Uber is a good company and wouldn't have joined otherwise." But I find this hard to believe because if that was the case, then Uber would have lost most of their engineers in the beginning, pre-2014, when they were doing really shady stuff. Maybe you and your colleagues that use Hacker News that publicly commented on this thread would quit if something unethical happened, but words are empty while actions are not and I haven't heard of a case where a large group of Uber engineers or employees are protesting about their company's unethical nature. Color me unconvinced when I hear your words. http://fortune.com/2016/07/25/judge-uber-background-check-lawsuit-criminal/ http://fortune.com/2016/07/25/judge-uber-background-check-la...

chris_wot 10y ago

Weak, so weak. This is how the company was founded, and they want us to trust them with their data? Hell no.