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> You could not pay me to listen to Burzum There's no room for Nazis in metal.

3131s 10y ago
Well, I actually didn't mean it that way. While I don't like Nazis either and think that Varg is a pseudo-intellectual tool, I just find Burzum to be musically boring. I do actually welcome controversial lyrics and imagery in metal. I see it as sort of a canary in the coal mine for freedom of speech. With lyrics that are racist, misogynistic, militant, or even pedophilic, it's hard to tell how these bands straddle the line as far as actually advocating the ideas in their lyrics vs. wanting to evoke negative emotions and shine a light on the ugliness of humanity. The band Cynic summed up my view of extreme metal nicely with one of their demos titled "Reflections of a Dying World", and so in that sense I think even the most heinous lyrics have their place in metal, because anything else would be ignoring who we really are collectively as humans. I also find it a bit odd that the metal scene gets particularly worked up about racism, whereas murder, rape, torture, etc. are more-or-less par for the course in extreme metal nowadays.
LordFrith 10y ago
Varg got out of jail, moved to France, changed his name, got married, makes weird videos. https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective/videos
kbart 10y ago
"There's no room for Nazis in metal." What does ones political political alignment has to do with music?
- chriswoodford 10y ago
  There's something to be said for the question of if one can separate the art from the artist. There's a lot of debate about it in the realm of culture theory. That said, I've been on stage in Germany when Neo-Nazis tried to enter the venue to attend the show. The looks of legitimate distress on the attendees faces are something I won't forget. Personally, I find it really hard to separate art from artist and artist from political alignment.

3131s 10y ago

Well, I actually didn't mean it that way. While I don't like Nazis either and think that Varg is a pseudo-intellectual tool, I just find Burzum to be musically boring. I do actually welcome controversial lyrics and imagery in metal. I see it as sort of a canary in the coal mine for freedom of speech. With lyrics that are racist, misogynistic, militant, or even pedophilic, it's hard to tell how these bands straddle the line as far as actually advocating the ideas in their lyrics vs. wanting to evoke negative emotions and shine a light on the ugliness of humanity. The band Cynic summed up my view of extreme metal nicely with one of their demos titled "Reflections of a Dying World", and so in that sense I think even the most heinous lyrics have their place in metal, because anything else would be ignoring who we really are collectively as humans. I also find it a bit odd that the metal scene gets particularly worked up about racism, whereas murder, rape, torture, etc. are more-or-less par for the course in extreme metal nowadays.

LordFrith 10y ago

Varg got out of jail, moved to France, changed his name, got married, makes weird videos. https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective/videos

kbart 10y ago

"There's no room for Nazis in metal." What does ones political political alignment has to do with music?

chriswoodford 10y ago
There's something to be said for the question of if one can separate the art from the artist. There's a lot of debate about it in the realm of culture theory. That said, I've been on stage in Germany when Neo-Nazis tried to enter the venue to attend the show. The looks of legitimate distress on the attendees faces are something I won't forget. Personally, I find it really hard to separate art from artist and artist from political alignment.