I got banned from an energy-related sub-reddit for making a point in a discussion about solar using the diagram in your first link. Context is a bannable offens

I got banned from an energy-related sub-reddit for making a point in a discussion about solar using the diagram in your first link. Context is a bannable offense! :-) Seriously, though: context is very important. You can't have a meaningful discussion if people are comparing tailpipe to tailpipe. You need a cradle-to-grave view of the system and its inputs, chained back, at least one step and maybe two. It's cumbersome, but otherwise, people keep debating with their comparisons between apples and wheelbarrows. I used to think that people who were picking a micro-location for their PoV/stance were acting disingenuously. But, I've learned that - they really don't know! (Some remain remarkably incurious once shown, though...) Anyway: thanks for that link. It's one of my all time favorite Sankey diagrams, which I found by accident after digging after that earlier one from LLNL...