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All I can say is, it's not about "calling people out". It's about finding out (and at least attempting to come to rough agreement on) what actually happened.
by kafkaesq 10y ago
All I can say is, it's not about "calling people out".
It's about finding out (and at least attempting to come to rough agreement on) what actually happened. Did 3,000 or members of various branches of the Russian armed forces slip over the border, not-so-covertly, in late February and early March of 2014 to enforce the expulsion of Ukrainian government authorities, or did they not? Did their surrogates in Eastern Ukraine manage to take down a civilian airliner (inadvertently, but that's beside the point) -- and top it off by interfering with the investigation -- or did they not?
You know, simple, blameless, matters of objective reality like that. To which "What about Iraq?" response really aren't very helpful.
Or as Trump surrogate Scottie Nell Hughes put in the The Diane Rehm Show, on NPR, earlier today: “It’s kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true. There’s no such thing, unfortunately, anymore as facts.”
- rahrahrah 10y agoOk I hear you. Maybe I just lashed out too quickly. You're right that when you point out something like "some people deny that Crimea was an invasion", saying "the other side did X" adds nothing. But I guess that I find the hypocrisy so disgusting that I go out of my way to add it to conversations, even when not directly related :-/
- kafkaesq 10y agoAgreed, there's no end of hypocrisy and double standards, on all sides, all around. The only way I know to counter it is... to try not to echo it (as often as I may feel tempted to do so).