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Well in that note React sucks too... Yeah I said it. Lots of dependencies, complicated bootstrap process, too many abstract concepts, and if youre using redux w

Well in that note React sucks too... Yeah I said it. Lots of dependencies, complicated bootstrap process, too many abstract concepts, and if youre using redux which is necessary if youre planning to build anything serious, you need to edit like 10 files just to add a new feature.

meowface 10y ago
Javascript sucks.
- throwwatgku 10y ago
  Of all the comments I think this sums everything up the most effectively.
flukus 10y ago
> if youre planning to build anything serious, you need to edit like 10 files just to add a new feature. So it's enterprise grade?
- alanz1223 10y ago
  Well theyre not entryprise grade.
- NikolaeVarius 10y ago
  Enterprise grade tends to be complicated because they're BIG and has lots of parts because there are tons of features With react, have you seen the starter kits? It's like 400mb of dependencies for a starter project that pretty much displays hello world with a interactive button
  - flukus 10y ago
    > Enterprise grade tends to be complicated because they're BIG. In practice I find it's just because enterprise software is over architected and poorly generalized. With react native I couldn't get hello world to work, maybe I needed to hire a consultant?
  - OhSoHumble 10y ago
    I came across the React equivalent for MEAN and my mind was blown when I generated a project with it. The level of complexity was completely staggering. I was floored.
carsongross 10y ago
"Current front-end development is the equivalent of the J2EE debacle, but with better logos and more attractive people."
bradmwalker 10y ago
React-redux templates have taken concern sharting, splitting domain concepts across several files named after $framework's concepts, to an extreme. The namespace babysitting is unpleasant, too. What technically justifies this?
- carsongross 10y ago
  Fear of being seen to be insufficiently cutting edge.
FrancoDiaz 10y ago
You don't need redux to build anything serious. There's Mobx.
Waterluvian 10y ago
There's crappy things about React but one thing I like about it is that if you know JavaScript and HTML, you know the syntax for React and JSX. Like you can pretty much write what you would expect to write as plain HTML and it'll work.
rpedela 10y ago
The compile process is complicated but more because of ES6/ES7 than React and JSX. Everyone wants to use ES6/ES7 which isn't fully supported yet by all browsers. And yes there are a lot of dependencies for a typical project but again that is not really React's fault. React is a view library so you need a bunch of other crap to make something useful. What you say about Redux is spot on.
nickik 10y ago
Simple is not easy

meowface 10y ago

Javascript sucks.

throwwatgku 10y ago
Of all the comments I think this sums everything up the most effectively.

flukus 10y ago

> if youre planning to build anything serious, you need to edit like 10 files just to add a new feature. So it's enterprise grade?

alanz1223 10y ago
Well theyre not entryprise grade.
NikolaeVarius 10y ago
Enterprise grade tends to be complicated because they're BIG and has lots of parts because there are tons of features With react, have you seen the starter kits? It's like 400mb of dependencies for a starter project that pretty much displays hello world with a interactive button
- flukus 10y ago
  > Enterprise grade tends to be complicated because they're BIG. In practice I find it's just because enterprise software is over architected and poorly generalized. With react native I couldn't get hello world to work, maybe I needed to hire a consultant?
- OhSoHumble 10y ago
  I came across the React equivalent for MEAN and my mind was blown when I generated a project with it. The level of complexity was completely staggering. I was floored.

carsongross 10y ago

"Current front-end development is the equivalent of the J2EE debacle, but with better logos and more attractive people."

bradmwalker 10y ago

React-redux templates have taken concern sharting, splitting domain concepts across several files named after $framework's concepts, to an extreme. The namespace babysitting is unpleasant, too. What technically justifies this?

carsongross 10y ago
Fear of being seen to be insufficiently cutting edge.

FrancoDiaz 10y ago

You don't need redux to build anything serious. There's Mobx.

Waterluvian 10y ago

There's crappy things about React but one thing I like about it is that if you know JavaScript and HTML, you know the syntax for React and JSX. Like you can pretty much write what you would expect to write as plain HTML and it'll work.

rpedela 10y ago

The compile process is complicated but more because of ES6/ES7 than React and JSX. Everyone wants to use ES6/ES7 which isn't fully supported yet by all browsers. And yes there are a lot of dependencies for a typical project but again that is not really React's fault. React is a view library so you need a bunch of other crap to make something useful. What you say about Redux is spot on.

nickik 10y ago

Simple is not easy