I stopped using 3rd party AV ~10 years ago personally. For family and friends I used to recommend Kaspersky because it usually scores highly on tests, but now a

I stopped using 3rd party AV ~10 years ago personally. For family and friends I used to recommend Kaspersky because it usually scores highly on tests, but now as I spend more time looking into the industry I think I'll just tell them to stick with defender and ublock, and I'll remote in whenever they install a virus. I'm entirely on windows by the way, same with family, friends generally.