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Problem I think is still range. Tesla model S is no doubt a great, albeit very expensive, car, but it's real world range on European motorways, is still patheti

Problem I think is still range. Tesla model S is no doubt a great, albeit very expensive, car, but it's real world range on European motorways, is still pathetic. At 100 mph, range is is measly 100 miles, my BMW 535d does 500 miles at this speed, even in the UK averaging 110 mph is quite common, when not too busy. In Germany one regularly sees cars travelling at 140+ mph for long stretches, which would be impossible for a Tesla.

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greglindahl 10y ago
What fraction of the luxury car market is in places with 100mph speed limits?
- kuschku 10y ago
  100% of Germany?
  - petre 10y ago
    Germany doesn't have speed limits on most motorways. They have the 20+ minute stau instead. Otherwise the speed limit on most of Europe's motorways is 130 km/h.
macns 10y ago
At 100 mph, range is is measly 100 miles Where did you get those numbers? Tesla's range calculator claims different[1]. Can you also point to a similar calculator from BMW? All I found is for electric; why is there not one for gas fueled cars? EDIT: forgot the link[1] https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/models?redirect=no#range-calculator https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/models?redirect=no#range-calcula...
- kuschku 10y ago
  The calculator doesn’t even allow setting the value to 100mph, so it can’t claim different?
  - macns 10y ago
    Good point. I just discovered it doesn't allow you to go more than 120km, and at 100km/h the speed to range ratio is 4.5 whereas at +20km/h ratio drops to 2.9 on the 75 model, and to 3.76 on the P100D model. So, the 160km/h to 160km makes more sense now.
- garyclarke27 10y ago
  I read a report from a German Tesla owner who tested the range at 160 kph as 160 km, intuitively makes sense.
manarth 10y ago
> even in the UK averaging 110 mph is quite common The UK provides open-data reports about traffic flow for different road types [1]. The UK speed limit for motorways is 70mph. 46% of traffic exceed that (in free-flow traffic conditions), but only 11% exceed 80mph, and just 1% exceed 90mph, so I wouldn't describe 110mph as "quite common". 1. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/spe01-vehicle-speeds https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/spe01-ve...

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greglindahl 10y ago

What fraction of the luxury car market is in places with 100mph speed limits?

kuschku 10y ago
100% of Germany?
- petre 10y ago
  Germany doesn't have speed limits on most motorways. They have the 20+ minute stau instead. Otherwise the speed limit on most of Europe's motorways is 130 km/h.

macns 10y ago

At 100 mph, range is is measly 100 miles Where did you get those numbers? Tesla's range calculator claims different[1]. Can you also point to a similar calculator from BMW? All I found is for electric; why is there not one for gas fueled cars? EDIT: forgot the link[1] https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/models?redirect=no#range-calculator https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/models?redirect=no#range-calcula...

kuschku 10y ago
The calculator doesn’t even allow setting the value to 100mph, so it can’t claim different?
- macns 10y ago
  Good point. I just discovered it doesn't allow you to go more than 120km, and at 100km/h the speed to range ratio is 4.5 whereas at +20km/h ratio drops to 2.9 on the 75 model, and to 3.76 on the P100D model. So, the 160km/h to 160km makes more sense now.
garyclarke27 10y ago
I read a report from a German Tesla owner who tested the range at 160 kph as 160 km, intuitively makes sense.

manarth 10y ago

> even in the UK averaging 110 mph is quite common The UK provides open-data reports about traffic flow for different road types [1]. The UK speed limit for motorways is 70mph. 46% of traffic exceed that (in free-flow traffic conditions), but only 11% exceed 80mph, and just 1% exceed 90mph, so I wouldn't describe 110mph as "quite common". 1. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/spe01-vehicle-speeds https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/spe01-ve...