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Of course, cocoa would affect the taste, a lot of people don't like dark chocolate. They're talking about another sugar that would dissolve faster in the mouth.

Of course, cocoa would affect the taste, a lot of people don't like dark chocolate. They're talking about another sugar that would dissolve faster in the mouth. Should be interesting at least.

GordonS 10y ago
True enough, but most milk chocolate products would have to add a lot of cocoa before they were considered dark chocolate. Just 20% is fairly typical here in the UK, which results in something far too sweet and barely recognisable as chocolate. But I'm one of those freaks that actually likes dark chocolate up to 85%.
- tudorw 10y ago
  take a walk into pure darkness sometime, good luck...bitter is not the word! https://www.montezumas.co.uk/bars-c1/100-cocoa-chocolate-bar-absolute-black-p249 https://www.montezumas.co.uk/bars-c1/100-cocoa-chocolate-bar...
  - ashmud 10y ago
    Also, (unsweetened) cacao nibs: http://navitasnaturals.com/product/439/Cacao-Nibs.html http://navitasnaturals.com/product/439/Cacao-Nibs.html
- masklinn 10y ago
  > But I'm one of those freaks that actually likes dark chocolate up to 85%. 85% seems fairly commonly OK, I've rarely found other people who like 95+, let alone my best friend the 99% (http://www.chocolate.lindt.com/shop/excellence-cocoa-99-1 http://www.chocolate.lindt.com/shop/excellence-cocoa-99-1).
  - Declanomous 10y ago
    I'll eat pretty much any dark chocolate. The best place to find inexpensive, yet good, dark chocolate in the United States is ALDI. Another great thing about their dark chocolate is that it doesn't contain any dairy. One of my friends was on an extremely limited diet for a while doctors tried to figure out what was causing a mysterious allergic reaction. That meant no dairy. She missed chocolate so much she nearly cried when I gave her the first chocolate she could eat in several months.
    - dao- 10y ago
      > The best place to find inexpensive, yet good, dark chocolate in the United States is ALDI. Another great thing about their dark chocolate is that it doesn't contain any dairy. Yep, they're selling the same thing in Germany, it's great. Super cheap and vegan, contains lots of cocoa butter instead of milk.
    - happycube 10y ago
      Trader Joes (run by the other half of ALDI) also has the good chocolate. :)
  - kyriakos 10y ago
    The 99% lindt is one of my favourite chocolates. The whole process of enjoying dark chocolate is different than regular milk chocolate. I noticed that people who like milk chocolate usually consume large quantities. On the other hand dark chocolate lovers eat chocolate slowly allowing it to melt in the mouth.
    - codebeaker 10y ago
      Funnily enough this so-called "Choccolate Meditation" is the first meditation in the book on mindfulness for meditation, it's a fun place to start. Anecdotally I've never met a hectic stressed person who liked nearly-black bitter dark choccolate :) (ISBN-13: 978-0749953089) http://amzn.eu/8JHl1tw http://amzn.eu/8JHl1tw
      - wlievens 10y ago
        Meet me then. I switched over from brown to as dark as possible during me keto era four years ago and it stuck. But I'm not good with stress. Could be the hyperactive twin toddlers driving me crazy of course!
    - TylerE 10y ago
      The nice thing is good dark chocolate basically doesn't spoil. You don't even need to refrigerate it or anything.
    - masklinn 10y ago
      > On the other hand dark chocolate lovers eat chocolate slowly allowing it to melt in the mouth. In fairness there's no other way to enjoy really dark chocolate, masticating a piece (let alone multiple) yields no taste and a completely dry and powdery mouth, it's not enjoyable.
- wiredfool 10y ago
  I've run across 'Dark' chocolate in Ireland that's 40% cocoa solids, and more than that sugar. Highly disappointed. (I'm more of a 72% dark chocolate person. )
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  I used to hate dark chocolate. I've been on keto (less than 20g of sugar a day) for a few months, and can now appreciate chocolate with 95%+ cocoa. It's crazy how much frequent sugar consumption affects your taste buds.
cptskippy 10y ago
Most chocolate isn't anywhere near what you would consider to be dark chocolate. Hershey's Special Dark chocolate bars are something like 45% cocoa solids where as real dark chocolate is usually north of 70%. To say that a lot of people don't like dark chocolate is very open to interpretation and I wouldn't at all be surprised if candy makers relied on that fact to support their dilution of products. Manufactures have been altering their chocolate formulas for decades to reduce costs. Hershey once removed cocoa butter from a number of products, replacing it with oils, which under governing laws required that they re-brand the products from "milk chocolate" to "chocolate candy". Companies even have different formulations base on the country and their general preferences. Nutella sold in the USA is very different in taste and texture from Nutella sold in Italy. Candy sold in the UK cannot have artificial anything so all products there are very different from the USA as well. A lot of the oils used to replace cocoa butter and milk fats have a putrid bile like flavor and so manufacturers bump up the sugar content to compensate which radically changes the flavor profile. These changes have been introduced to markets gradually over time so the market grows accustom to the changes. That's why you hear about people from Europe describing US chocolate as rancid. *typo
- nickik 10y ago
  Dark chocolate is pretty in fashion, at least in Europe and in Switzerland generally. There are hole series of products that range from 70% to 99%. Its insane. http://nd.ukwebdev.com/images/foodreviews/chocolate-lindt-excellence.jpg http://nd.ukwebdev.com/images/foodreviews/chocolate-lindt-ex...
  - cptskippy 10y ago
    It's been in vogue in the USA for a while too but I think the market is still pretty small compared to candies like M&Ms.
  - HelloNurse 10y ago
    What is "insane" about quality chocolate? Below 60% cocoa chocolate has either too much sugar for normal tastes or funny ingredients, 60 or 70% cocoa dark chocolate is sweet, 85% cocoa dark chocolate is mainstream, 99 or 100% is really bitter, covering a range of different tastes. The important chocolate quality axes are choice of cocoa varieties and quality of processing; the industrial-tasting 99% Lindt tablets in the photo have nothing in common with their Amedei or Bonnat counterparts.

Of course, cocoa would affect the taste, a lot of people don't like dark chocolate. They're talking about another sugar that would dissolve faster in the mouth. Should be interesting at least.

GordonS 10y ago

True enough, but most milk chocolate products would have to add a lot of cocoa before they were considered dark chocolate. Just 20% is fairly typical here in the UK, which results in something far too sweet and barely recognisable as chocolate. But I'm one of those freaks that actually likes dark chocolate up to 85%.

tudorw 10y ago
take a walk into pure darkness sometime, good luck...bitter is not the word! https://www.montezumas.co.uk/bars-c1/100-cocoa-chocolate-bar-absolute-black-p249 https://www.montezumas.co.uk/bars-c1/100-cocoa-chocolate-bar...
- ashmud 10y ago
  Also, (unsweetened) cacao nibs: http://navitasnaturals.com/product/439/Cacao-Nibs.html http://navitasnaturals.com/product/439/Cacao-Nibs.html
masklinn 10y ago
> But I'm one of those freaks that actually likes dark chocolate up to 85%. 85% seems fairly commonly OK, I've rarely found other people who like 95+, let alone my best friend the 99% (http://www.chocolate.lindt.com/shop/excellence-cocoa-99-1 http://www.chocolate.lindt.com/shop/excellence-cocoa-99-1).
- Declanomous 10y ago
  I'll eat pretty much any dark chocolate. The best place to find inexpensive, yet good, dark chocolate in the United States is ALDI. Another great thing about their dark chocolate is that it doesn't contain any dairy. One of my friends was on an extremely limited diet for a while doctors tried to figure out what was causing a mysterious allergic reaction. That meant no dairy. She missed chocolate so much she nearly cried when I gave her the first chocolate she could eat in several months.
  - dao- 10y ago
    > The best place to find inexpensive, yet good, dark chocolate in the United States is ALDI. Another great thing about their dark chocolate is that it doesn't contain any dairy. Yep, they're selling the same thing in Germany, it's great. Super cheap and vegan, contains lots of cocoa butter instead of milk.
  - happycube 10y ago
    Trader Joes (run by the other half of ALDI) also has the good chocolate. :)
- kyriakos 10y ago
  The 99% lindt is one of my favourite chocolates. The whole process of enjoying dark chocolate is different than regular milk chocolate. I noticed that people who like milk chocolate usually consume large quantities. On the other hand dark chocolate lovers eat chocolate slowly allowing it to melt in the mouth.
  - codebeaker 10y ago
    Funnily enough this so-called "Choccolate Meditation" is the first meditation in the book on mindfulness for meditation, it's a fun place to start. Anecdotally I've never met a hectic stressed person who liked nearly-black bitter dark choccolate :) (ISBN-13: 978-0749953089) http://amzn.eu/8JHl1tw http://amzn.eu/8JHl1tw
    - wlievens 10y ago
      Meet me then. I switched over from brown to as dark as possible during me keto era four years ago and it stuck. But I'm not good with stress. Could be the hyperactive twin toddlers driving me crazy of course!
  - TylerE 10y ago
    The nice thing is good dark chocolate basically doesn't spoil. You don't even need to refrigerate it or anything.
  - masklinn 10y ago
    > On the other hand dark chocolate lovers eat chocolate slowly allowing it to melt in the mouth. In fairness there's no other way to enjoy really dark chocolate, masticating a piece (let alone multiple) yields no taste and a completely dry and powdery mouth, it's not enjoyable.
wiredfool 10y ago
I've run across 'Dark' chocolate in Ireland that's 40% cocoa solids, and more than that sugar. Highly disappointed. (I'm more of a 72% dark chocolate person. )
miguelrochefort 10y ago
I used to hate dark chocolate. I've been on keto (less than 20g of sugar a day) for a few months, and can now appreciate chocolate with 95%+ cocoa. It's crazy how much frequent sugar consumption affects your taste buds.

cptskippy 10y ago

Most chocolate isn't anywhere near what you would consider to be dark chocolate. Hershey's Special Dark chocolate bars are something like 45% cocoa solids where as real dark chocolate is usually north of 70%. To say that a lot of people don't like dark chocolate is very open to interpretation and I wouldn't at all be surprised if candy makers relied on that fact to support their dilution of products. Manufactures have been altering their chocolate formulas for decades to reduce costs. Hershey once removed cocoa butter from a number of products, replacing it with oils, which under governing laws required that they re-brand the products from "milk chocolate" to "chocolate candy". Companies even have different formulations base on the country and their general preferences. Nutella sold in the USA is very different in taste and texture from Nutella sold in Italy. Candy sold in the UK cannot have artificial anything so all products there are very different from the USA as well. A lot of the oils used to replace cocoa butter and milk fats have a putrid bile like flavor and so manufacturers bump up the sugar content to compensate which radically changes the flavor profile. These changes have been introduced to markets gradually over time so the market grows accustom to the changes. That's why you hear about people from Europe describing US chocolate as rancid. *typo

nickik 10y ago
Dark chocolate is pretty in fashion, at least in Europe and in Switzerland generally. There are hole series of products that range from 70% to 99%. Its insane. http://nd.ukwebdev.com/images/foodreviews/chocolate-lindt-excellence.jpg http://nd.ukwebdev.com/images/foodreviews/chocolate-lindt-ex...
- cptskippy 10y ago
  It's been in vogue in the USA for a while too but I think the market is still pretty small compared to candies like M&Ms.
- HelloNurse 10y ago
  What is "insane" about quality chocolate? Below 60% cocoa chocolate has either too much sugar for normal tastes or funny ingredients, 60 or 70% cocoa dark chocolate is sweet, 85% cocoa dark chocolate is mainstream, 99 or 100% is really bitter, covering a range of different tastes. The important chocolate quality axes are choice of cocoa varieties and quality of processing; the industrial-tasting 99% Lindt tablets in the photo have nothing in common with their Amedei or Bonnat counterparts.