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why?

cemerick 16y ago
Looks like an experiment, someone attempting to innovate. From Rémi Forax's announcement on the JVM Languages Group (http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages/browse_frm/thread/91a069b78fb509ac http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages/browse_frm/thre...): It's as far as I know the first reboot of an existing language :) The idea is to keep the spirit of PHP but change its syntax to natively support XML, SQL, JSON, XPath/XQuery, Perl5 regex, etc. Embedding those DSL provides several benefits: - better readability - variable values are correctly escaped by default (no SQL injection, etc) - integration into a common runtime type system which avoid runtime conversions Unlike PHP wich is based on C runtime, PHP.reboot is based on the JVM which natively supports unicode, exceptions and provides a runtime optimizing environment. PHP.reboot uses a gradual type system (not yet finished) and will soon get a runtime compiler thanks to JSR 292 API. The interpreter already use this API to speed up method calls and member access.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  > It's as far as I know the first reboot of an existing language :) What an absolute nonsense. As if nobody has ever re-implemented a language that already existed, it's maybe a first for PHP but it's more the rule than the exception that there are dialects of programming languages.
  - jrockway 16y ago
    See also, Ruby and Perl.
  - derefr 16y ago
    Can you provide examples? Besides Lisp (which isn't considered "a language" so much as a taxonomical classification to them), what language has 2+ dialects where both are in active development and use? (Not to suggest JPHP is in active use.) I think the only good example I can come up with is Visual Basic vs. Visual Basic for Applicaions.
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      I have a harder time finding languages that only have a single implementation. C++, C, Basic (numerous implementations), Python, Cobol, you already mentioned lisp. There's lots more but I think that suffices.
cjoh 16y ago
PHP is a language a bunch of people are familiar with-- and a "first language" for a lot of people. This could mean a great deal to some of those kids who started out as "Drupal Developers" and never expanded their skills past the platform.
- randallsquared 16y ago
  But it really has little to do with PHP at all. Besides the name, I guess.

why?

Looks like an experiment, someone attempting to innovate. From Rémi Forax's announcement on the JVM Languages Group (http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages/browse_frm/thread/91a069b78fb509ac http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages/browse_frm/thre...): It's as far as I know the first reboot of an existing language :) The idea is to keep the spirit of PHP but change its syntax to natively support XML, SQL, JSON, XPath/XQuery, Perl5 regex, etc. Embedding those DSL provides several benefits: - better readability - variable values are correctly escaped by default (no SQL injection, etc) - integration into a common runtime type system which avoid runtime conversions Unlike PHP wich is based on C runtime, PHP.reboot is based on the JVM which natively supports unicode, exceptions and provides a runtime optimizing environment. PHP.reboot uses a gradual type system (not yet finished) and will soon get a runtime compiler thanks to JSR 292 API. The interpreter already use this API to speed up method calls and member access.

jacquesm 16y ago
> It's as far as I know the first reboot of an existing language :) What an absolute nonsense. As if nobody has ever re-implemented a language that already existed, it's maybe a first for PHP but it's more the rule than the exception that there are dialects of programming languages.
- jrockway 16y ago
  See also, Ruby and Perl.
- derefr 16y ago
  Can you provide examples? Besides Lisp (which isn't considered "a language" so much as a taxonomical classification to them), what language has 2+ dialects where both are in active development and use? (Not to suggest JPHP is in active use.) I think the only good example I can come up with is Visual Basic vs. Visual Basic for Applicaions.
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    I have a harder time finding languages that only have a single implementation. C++, C, Basic (numerous implementations), Python, Cobol, you already mentioned lisp. There's lots more but I think that suffices.

cjoh 16y ago

PHP is a language a bunch of people are familiar with-- and a "first language" for a lot of people. This could mean a great deal to some of those kids who started out as "Drupal Developers" and never expanded their skills past the platform.

randallsquared 16y ago
But it really has little to do with PHP at all. Besides the name, I guess.