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Since the self-driving vehicle topic has been discussed here at length, I'm making the blanket assumption that is just the way it is going to work in the future
by AJ007 10y ago
Since the self-driving vehicle topic has been discussed here at length, I'm making the blanket assumption that is just the way it is going to work in the future: open your phone, call a car, ride it to your destination.
I think it is a big assumption anyone will be able to buy a bunch of self-driving vehicles and blanket a city. Tesla has already prohibited auto-pilot (or whatever it ends up being called) from being used for third party ride sharing services. I would suspect other manufacturers will too barring exclusive contracts with the transport/ride-sharing/etc company.
This means right now it is an arms race between Tesla and Uber to manufacture, at scale, the first fully self-driving "taxi." Tesla is probably well ahead on that game and Uber will either need to partner or buy an existing car company.
The secondary problem is the platform is the mobile phone. Apple or Google could easily build an auction platform in to the OS for calling vehicles. In that case, it could become a commodity business with royalties paid to whoever has the dominate mobile device in the future (could be Facebook or Snapchat instead.)
Thirdly there may be vehicle differentiation. Right now if you use UberX, there is a pretty wide range of vehicles that could show up. If brand preference and car features matter a lot, I don't see why a luxury car maker like BMW couldn't at least a niche player.
Finally, everyone has different ideas. What this looks like in 12 months is going to be different that 36 month, vs 10 years from now. I think some people are right about their assumptions of what will happen, but maybe it will only be that way for a few years before completely changing again. How it plays out probably has more to do with what decisions and deals the big players make -- Uber, Tesla, Google, Apple, the other car companies -- more than any particular inevitability.
- aninhumer 10y agoOne other thing is that in many cases there's no particular reason the journey has to be completed end-to-end in a self-driving car. For longer journeys it might make sense to take public transport for the majority of the route, and just use taxis for last-mile at either end. This might even be preferable for taxi companies, since they probably make more money on many short trips, and they don't waste time driving empty cars to/from remote areas. This could work really well if Google integrated payment alongside their directions, so when you search for directions, you get a total price, and a button to pay for that journey immediately.
- rmattes 10y ago> Tesla is probably well ahead on that game and Uber will either need to partner or buy an existing car company. Tesla may have been working on it longer commercially, but Uber did poach a lot of expertise from Carnegie Mellon to get a head start: http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-poached-a-load-of-staff-from-carnegie-mellon-to-help-it-make-self-driving-cars-2015-5 http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-poached-a-load-of-staff-... If Tesla is ahead, it's not by much. Uber is already demonstrating (alpha-testing?) self-driving cars in Pittsburgh. https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/14/1386711/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/14/1386711/ I'm not sure why Uber needs to be directly working with a car company, other than for better integration of the self-driving technology with the vehicle systems. However, they are currently working with Volvo: https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/194795/volvo-cars-and-uber-join-forces-to-develop-autonomous-driving-cars https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressrele...